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Al Gore is a fricken idiot! exactly what Zed said, the temperature rate is all wrong. We had to watch that video, oh i forget the name, about temperature changes. He said that it was a record in temperature in 1901, 1907, 1970, and some previous years (around 1901 and 1907 , and years around 1970). Yes 1970 was a pretty pollutedd year, and i dont know about the early 1900's, but it seems almost like a cycle, though most things occur over thousands of years. Al Gore says, well the Earth is getting so much hotter , in a couple of years the average temperature will be about 110 degrees. Now, what's with this cooling thing too? Were not increasing 1 degree every year either, maybe about 0.1 degree a year, maybe not even that.

but i don't see how the expansion of the earth has to do with the temperature.

EDIT: wait, nvm i understand, outer coor cooling, i didnt read ashes and thought it was the surface temperature

I think he's trying to make a point, but he isn't saying it correctly

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Actually, it IS true that the earth is expanding. As the outer core cools, it solidifies and that solidification causes expansion. However, that expansion is less than the degree to which water expands when frozen. It causes something like a few millimeters expansion every few hundred thousand years. Slow, lol. I could be wrong though.

Cooling of the outer core causes expansion? I thought water was the only thing that expands when cooled.

My uninformed opinion is that the upper layers of the earth are slowing down due lost momentum from the moon and tides and stuff. The core of the earth takes longer to slow down, kinda like the yolk of a spinning egg, creating greater amounts of friction. Friction = heat = expansion. Or not.

I think the whole part of the fish fossils on land means that obviously the ocean was covering that part of the continents... I don't think the models are indicating that water just appeared out of nowhere to fill in the spaces created through expansion, it's a tool for us to understand the concept of our landmasses in the past being connected on all sides with the current oceans being created through magma cooling as it's pushed up in the newly created cracks. The landmasses are apparently sitting on the only "real" tectonic plates according to this theory and the water sat on them until this massive expansion. But I'd like to know what he thinks the Earth looked like before this increase in expansion and what exactly the process is. Perhaps it's cooling and we have an inadequate understanding of the amount of pressure and heat at the center of the Earth and what effects are created by the cooling? Perhaps the fact that the rotation of the Earth is slowing, thereby allowing the Earth to settle into its "natural" volume, or at least a looser conglomeration of mass. And since we can't exactly understand the way a planet reacts to billions of years of cooling and slowing, it could very well be that on such a large scale the mass is able to compact more than we can assume. It is a very interesting thought experiment, but as stated it sounds ludicrous and it's very unprofessional to name it a conspiracy of the scientific establishment. Puts it in the same realm as the hollow earth and flat earth hypotheses.

the universe is expanding. So in theory does that make us smaller?

are we not part of the universe?

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the universe is expanding. So in theory does that make us smaller?

In relation to the universe, yes.

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are we not part of the universe?

look who just flew in from the planet of dumbasses....

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look who just flew in from the planet of dumbasses....

I suddenly dislike you.

i hate science. this is worst then scdhool

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look who just flew in from the planet of dumbasses....

were you riding shotgun?

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I've seen this before, judging by the evidence tI would have to believe this. It cant just be a coincidence everything fits perfectly on a smaller planet. the core could just be hollowing.

You idiot, that's the problem, they DON'T fit together perfectly. Did you watch how much the animators had to change the shape of the continents to make them fit together? And the evidence they have sounds convincing if you don't now much about geology or physics, but really it's FILLED with holes.

And even if they did interlock perfectly, that doesn't mean that one set of continents were next to each other at one point and then they were aranged in a different order using different edges at another point. There have been several supercontinents in the earth's history, including Vaalbara, Columbia, and Pangaea. They fully explain all the interlocking and fossils and trees without the need for a smaller planet.

err, I don't know shit about this, but isn't it pretty much accepted fact that the earth is expanding, at least at some rate? I just went to an archeology lecture, and the teacher said that as a general rule, you go further back in time as you dig deeper down. He showed us an anagram that I can't find, but it pretty much showed the earth cut in half (like the anagrams showing the structure of the earth, with crust, upper mantle and so forth), with different layers representing different times.

If things are buried with time, does that not mean the earth must be expanding?



hmm.. "Modern measurements have established very stringent upper bound limits for the expansion rate, which very much reduces the possibility of an expanding Earth. For example, paleomagnetic data has been used to calculate that the radius of the Earth 400 million years ago was 102 ± 2.8% of today's radius.[8] Furthermore, examinations of earth's moment of inertia suggest that no significant change of earth's radius in the last 620 million years could have taken place and therefore earth expansion is untenable." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_Earth

We're not saying it's impossible that the earth is expanding, we're saying the earth couldn't have doubled in size over the past few hundred million years.