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Apr 25, 2010 7:51 PM #575694
I agree, The Kraken. Texas is the most tolerate place I know.
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Apr 25, 2010 8:01 PM #575699
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**** you dude. That's the ignorent shit right there that really pisses me the hell off.


Sorry, but the statistics prove it. American retards are the world's biggest.
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Apr 25, 2010 8:07 PM #575702
we're the third biggest though :( that makes me sad
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Apr 25, 2010 8:13 PM #575705
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Sorry, but the statistics prove it. American retards are the world's biggest.

That website is bullshit.

UK isn't on this list http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_tee_pre-health-teenage-pregnancy

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Apr 25, 2010 9:09 PM #575742
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That website is bullshit.

UK isn't on this list http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_tee_pre-health-teenage-pregnancy

>: (


I swear to god I see like 12 year olds with condoms now
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Apr 25, 2010 9:10 PM #575743
Don't complain about the youth of today. It makes me feel old.
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Apr 25, 2010 9:37 PM #575764
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Godamn the government. I bet that next they'll block forums and online games.


Why does everybody believe this stupid logic? "They banned one thing today, so tomorrow they might ban ice cream! And baby kittens! It might never stop!" Listen, governments ban stuff. It happens. That's what a government does. Any non-anarchist system bans shit. Shit that 'causes harm, exploitation, abuse, you name it. I'm not saying I support this idea, which I don't, but I heavily oppose this Ash-style logic you came up with.
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Apr 26, 2010 12:21 AM #575829
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Why does everybody believe this stupid logic? "They banned one thing today, so tomorrow they might ban ice cream! And baby kittens! It might never stop!" Listen, governments ban stuff. It happens. That's what a government does. Any non-anarchist system bans shit. Shit that 'causes harm, exploitation, abuse, you name it. I'm not saying I support this idea, which I don't, but I heavily oppose this Ash-style logic you came up with.


This .

tbh, the filter won't effect me all that much, aside from the speed drop. But I'm still against it because censorship is Mr. gay.
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Apr 26, 2010 12:26 AM #575830
Quote from Überschall
Why does everybody believe this stupid logic? "They banned one thing today, so tomorrow they might ban ice cream! And baby kittens! It might never stop!" Listen, governments ban stuff. It happens. That's what a government does. Any non-anarchist system bans shit. Shit that 'causes harm, exploitation, abuse, you name it. I'm not saying I support this idea, which I don't, but I heavily oppose this Ash-style logic you came up with.

You obviously haven't heard about Michael Atkinson.
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Apr 26, 2010 12:28 AM #575832
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You obviously haven't heard about Michael Atkinson.


Atkinson isn't the Attorney General anymore.
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Apr 26, 2010 12:30 AM #575835
Really? Oh, thank goodness for that.
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Apr 26, 2010 12:02 PM #576034
Yeah, he decided to leave his soap box as he was losing rep quickly in his area.
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Apr 26, 2010 1:37 PM #576061
Seeing as it looks like every single one of you is too lazy to read my essay on page one, here's an abridged version, facts only:

- Only "Refused classification" (RC) content will be blocked
- This includes some illegal business like CP and beastiality, but also includes any non-mainstream pornography (ie. fetish material)
- RC also includes 'grey area' subject matter, like abortion, euthenasia, safe drug use, graffiti art, war videos, fringe religions, etc (essentially anything that's difficult to classify otherwise)
- The black list is costing **** tons to make and will cost **** tons more to maintain
- The end result will be ineffective, incomplete, and easy to circumvent with use of a proxy or vpn
- The filtering will slow internet use to a maximum of 8mbps rather than the soon-to-be-introduced 100mbps of the national broadband scheme
- most websites with illegal material become inactive after several hours and move elsewhere; a blacklist would not work here
- most illegal content is shared via P2P networks, not the web
- "Julian Assange, founder of Wikileaks said secret censorship systems were "invariably corrupted", pointing to the Thailand censorship list, which was originally billed as a mechanism to prevent child pornography but contained more than 1200 sites classified as criticising the royal family."
- Most of the people who are for this plan are under the impression that it will protect kids from anything on the internet that they shouldn't be exposed to (such as pornography and child predators). this is a lie
- this misconception has created a false sense of security about the idea. Only RC content will be blocked; R and X rated pornographic content will remain available to anybody who looks for it, children included
- predators cannot be stopped by a goddamn internet filter what the **** is wrong with these people
- senator conroy is a son of a bitch and can't take criticism; he dismisses it all as “misleading information” spread by “an organised group in the online world”.

Greens Senator Scott Ludlam said: “To characterise sustained opposition by individuals and groups as diverse as EFA, Google, SAGE, Yahoo, Save the Children, Reporters without Borders, Justice Kirby, Choice Magazine, leading online academics and industry associations and the United States Department of State as ‘an organised group in the online world’ is a remarkably naive misreading of how unpopular this proposal is.”




tl;dr:
conroy is spending **** tons of tax payer money to make a list of websites that either don't need or can't be blocked, in order to block them, using an ineffective and easy to get by method, and in the process is forcing us to be stuck with shitty internet speed and opening up possibilities for the government to **** with what we're allowed to see.




i think i got most of the important points in there. does that help?
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Apr 26, 2010 1:52 PM #576069
Woah they killed off fetish material?


Thank god Miniman isn't australian HE NEEDS HIS FOOT PORN
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Apr 26, 2010 3:13 PM #576130
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i am pretty sure americans are the biggest retards, period

Dude, that's just a stereotype. I'm American and I'm the least retarded person I know. Although I did get falcon-punched by an ESE kid.

I don't understand why they'd ban things other than CP. Like everyone's said, it's up to us to determine what we subject ourselves to.
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