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Jan 29, 2012 1:17 PM #583386
If you want some in-depth information, watch the following documentary. If you have no time for that, simply skip it.

The following is the third movie in a series of documentaries, called the Zeitgeist Documentaries. The first one isn't really relevant to this topic, the second one is a pretty relevant, but the third one is very good.





So, what is a Resource-Based Economy?

A Resource-Based Economy is, in short, a new Socio-Economic Model, which applies Science for social concern.
What this means is that all decisions are made through the Scientific Method, not through Politics.

A Resource-Based Economy has no political government and no money. It is a global system where all resources are shared among the people equally, based on the need of each region.
Let me explain that quickly.

Let's take Africa, Asia and Europe as regions for a second, in our current system.
Let's say Africa has about 5 million people (This is just an example) and 500,000 dollars. They're poor with a lot of people.
Asia, in this example, has 50 million people and 50 million dollars. Europe, 1 million people and 100 million dollars.
Now let's say they all want rice to feed their people. Each person needs a pound of rice and there's 100 million lbs of rice. Let's say every 1 lbs costs 1,50 dollars.
Anyone that can do the math, knows right now: There is enough rice for everyone. More than enough actually. However, we shouldn't forget money here. Africa doesn't have nearly enough money to feed it's people, Asia is struggling as well and Europe has loads and loads of money even after it feeds every single person. There's a lot of scenario's that can come from this. For example, Europe could buy half of all the rice, feed themselves then give Asia and Africa loans so they can buy more rice from them, economically owning Asia and Africa completely. Or they could just keep it for themselves while Africa and half of Asia starved to death.

What a Resource-Based Economy does is simply take out money from the equation in situations like this. First we see who needs what. Africa needs 5 million lbs, Asia needs 50 million lbs and Europe needs 1 millions lbs of rice. Do we have 56 million lbs of rice? Yes we do. So we can spread it accordingly and divide the remaining parts based on other factors or whatever, where the regions needed the rice the most.


Now, there are probably a lot of questions you would want to ask and it's hard to explain everything and I can't explain everything, because I'm not exactly the best spokesperson about this subject, but I'll try for anyone that wants to ask any questions.

Can we get a discussion going on this topic?
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Jan 29, 2012 2:32 PM #583394
How do you motivate the farmers to produce the rice without money?
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Jan 29, 2012 2:49 PM #583396
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How do you motivate the farmers to produce the rice without money?


Well, they need it, don't they?

We need food, so we have to make it.


Besides that, automation can easily take over farmer's jobs.
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Jan 29, 2012 4:20 PM #583402
They'll only produce what they need unless they're paid to produce extra. And if farms could be fully automated then they would be. There's a lot of profit in that.
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Jan 29, 2012 5:20 PM #583435
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They'll only produce what they need unless they're paid to produce extra. And if farms could be fully automated then they would be. There's a lot of profit in that.


...Most of them are, you know.
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Jan 29, 2012 8:08 PM #583482
Well Zed they produce more and save it for in-case their crops dont produce as much or any kind of disaster. Rice can last a long time in a jar, so they can over produce rice and save some and then trade rice for another crop to another farmer in asia. thats a barter economy. its the oldest system and its still used through out the world...just not as much as centuries ago
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Jan 29, 2012 10:50 PM #583521
What about shipping, would this system expect them to do it for nothing?
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Jan 30, 2012 8:16 AM #583622
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What about shipping, would this system expect them to do it for nothing?


It can easily be automated.

If you are really interested in the details and working of the system please watch the video in the OP. Both questions asked are answered in the documentary.
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Jan 30, 2012 9:04 AM #583628
It goes for two fucking hours. How much download do you think I have?
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Jan 30, 2012 9:05 AM #583629
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It goes for two fucking hours. How much download do you think I have?


Three hours. And it's pretty important, I think.
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Jan 30, 2012 10:59 AM #583648
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...Most of them are, you know.


Show me one fully automated farm. I am 99.9% sure that there is nowhere in the world where the owner just turns up each August and takes away a new loaf of bread having done nothing whatsoever since taking the last one.

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Well Zed they produce more and save it for in-case their crops dont produce as much or any kind of disaster. Rice can last a long time in a jar, so they can over produce rice and save some and then trade rice for another crop to another farmer in asia. thats a barter economy. its the oldest system and its still used through out the world...just not as much as centuries ago


He's not talking about a barter economy. That'd be fine - it's just inefficient. He's talking about a system with no trade, just redistribution.

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It can easily be automated.


And again, not easily. More possible than the farming, but we're still a long way off from lorries which drive themselves.


This whole thing seems quite reliant on humans having to do no work at all while robots take care of us. If I can find the time to look at the documentary then I will but I can't see it happening in the next few days.
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Jan 30, 2012 2:48 PM #583671
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Show me one fully automated farm. I am 99.9% sure that there is nowhere in the world where the owner just turns up each August and takes away a new loaf of bread having done nothing whatsoever since taking the last one.


Probably not 100%, because currently, money hinders this. Creating, installing and using these machines costs money. It's probably a lot cheaper right now to partially automate.
However, googling "fully automated farm", and ignoring the minecraft-related results, gave me a lot of links that spoke of complete takeovers of robotics on farms.

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He's not talking about a barter economy. That'd be fine - it's just inefficient. He's talking about a system with no trade, just redistribution.


Exactly. Redistribution and access abundance.

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And again, not easily. More possible than the farming, but we're still a long way off from lorries which drive themselves.


Actually we aren't.

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This whole thing seems quite reliant on humans having to do no work at all while robots take care of us. If I can find the time to look at the documentary then I will but I can't see it happening in the next few days.


You should really watch the documentary, It explains all these things better than I do.
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Feb 1, 2012 5:03 PM #584948
Why do people care more for unimportant theoretical particles than for an actually better way to live your life? This planet saddens me.
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Feb 22, 2012 5:01 AM #606646
Most people won't share your view, 'people who are rich are suddenly equal to commoners' it's a nice idea, it could work over a series of many years.
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Feb 24, 2012 12:36 AM #607587
Many, many, many, many years.

1000's would be my estimate.
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