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Feb 11, 2012 1:07 AM #591936
i personally think that it will for many reasons
1. all empires fall
2. we think we need to be involved in everyones business and their own problems
3. our government lies to us
4. we are arrogant

well i could go a lot more in depth but i wont i want to hear y'all answers and reasoning
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Feb 11, 2012 1:17 AM #591945
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Feb 11, 2012 1:20 AM #591948
hmmm... no, america will not fall, but the world government will. NOT END OF THE WORLD!
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Feb 11, 2012 1:49 AM #591963
at the rate we're going, we will. We are following the exact same footsteps nazi germany did, and the population knows this. Occupy Wall Street was just the beginning, and it is only a matter of time until we have a second revolution on our hands. It's happened in every modern country.
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Feb 11, 2012 2:00 AM #591967
I'd say if china attacked them, the terrorists would help, france might, and all the other countries that hate america. The only way to avoid world war 3 would be to let it happen. I mean china is trying to hack into the pentagon every chance it gets, if they got in, america would be screwed, although I doubt they will, america does have surpreme defense...also would england try to stop them if they did?
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Feb 11, 2012 2:20 AM #591975
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I'd say if china attacked them, the terrorists would help, france might, and all the other countries that hate america. The only way to avoid world war 3 would be to let it happen. I mean china is trying to hack into the pentagon every chance it gets, if they got in, america would be screwed, although I doubt they will, america does have surpreme defense...also would england try to stop them if they did?


absolutely! all of them would form a alliance, and then make a new Nazi Power or something, and then there will be world war 3. But, America does have supreme defense plus England which is a powerful nation. but... all that wouldn't really happen, I assure you that.
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Feb 11, 2012 2:48 AM #591995
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absolutely! all of them would form a alliance, and then make a new Nazi Power or something, and then there will be world war 3. But, America does have supreme defense plus England which is a powerful nation. but... all that wouldn't really happen, I assure you that.


But what if england doesn't come in?
Without the defense system america would be screwed, And if enlgand does want to come in, what if the rest of the commonwealth doesn't?
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Feb 11, 2012 2:50 AM #591998
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I'd say if china attacked them, the terrorists would help, france might, and all the other countries that hate america. The only way to avoid world war 3 would be to let it happen. I mean china is trying to hack into the pentagon every chance it gets, if they got in, america would be screwed, although I doubt they will, america does have surpreme defense...also would england try to stop them if they did?

Are you seriously fucking retarded?
I'll assume you're not trolling. this is why your theory is bullshit.
1) Although we owe Chine trillions of dollars in debt, the relationship is mutual. If we cut off all ties with them, the Us would be affected, but China would be completely devastated.
2) There are no such thing as "Terrorists". Sure, there's the Hamas group. but these are not TV terrorists. These are people who are simply fighting foreigners off their own soil. Hamas could literally give two fucks about America, as long as America stays out of the middle east.
3) France is our fucking bro, nigga. They helped us out in the American Revolution and we helped them out in WW2. We are complete fucking bros with france. Offering to go to war with france is like going to war with canada you faggotron. France is part of the European Union, a union which was made basically to provide America with some competition.
4) The only countries that hate america are the ones that don't have the power to attack it, because if they did, they would be extremely fucked. We've killed well over a million people in Iraq and Afghanistan simply because we wanted their oil and whatnot.
5) No, China is not trying to hack into the pentagon. China can barely run itself as it is, and there's no point in hacking the pentagon. Lol, what the fuck are you gonna find out? Invasion plans for Iran?
6) England? What the fuck? Bitch you trippin. The United States invests more into its department of defense than the rest of the world combined. Each Army infantryman is given the same equipment that would normally have to be shared among entire platoons.

shhh, just, just shhhh.

This is where we might be fucked.

Iran is stockpiling nuclear material. This material can either be used to create nuclear energy or nuclear bombs. Normally, we wouldn't be concerned, but Iran's leader is batfuck crazy, and he has made it pretty clear he wants Israel wiped clean off the map. And Israel's our bro. So we can't let this happen, thus, we have placed ships off the coast of Iran to watch them motherfuckers. However, Iran's supplier of the resources to make nukes, (since nukes aren't easy to make) is Russia. And we're sort of meeehhh with Russia.

So yes, this could turn into a US, EU, Israel and Russian Provinces versus Russia.

But hear this. Russia has a ton of these things called nukes. And if the Russians see they're going to get fucked, they'll launch these things everywhere.
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Feb 11, 2012 3:10 AM #592013
Someone should rename this thread 'Everybody talk out of your ass'
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Feb 11, 2012 3:29 AM #592028
we should just name the whole forum that.
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Feb 11, 2012 3:30 AM #592029
Well I wouldn't say it's *all* bad.
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Feb 11, 2012 4:43 AM #592066
Quote from Envission
i personally think that it will for many reasons
1. all empires fall
2. we think we need to be involved in everyones business and their own problems
3. our government lies to us
4. we are arrogant

well i could go a lot more in depth but i wont i want to hear y'all answers and reasoning


Okay here is how i see things happening
First China will become the super power of the world...this is inevitable, right now their currency is tied in with ours but they are diversifying there basket of currency with other countries and China's dollar should well exceed ours (estimate 2025-2030)
Second: after China becomes the super power of the world Americas money will be worthless because we have nothing to back it up but faith and that would be gone. So people will start losing jobs and start another great depression
Third: Americans losing their jobs will at some point start a war with China so we can get our dollar amount back up
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Feb 11, 2012 5:21 AM #592078
You actually thought I was serious. If your not smoking weed, I pity you.

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I'll assume you're not trolling.
But hear this. Russia has a ton of these things called nukes. And if the Russians see they're going to get fucked, they'll launch these things everywhere.


No, just at you. They have no reason to fire them at the rest of world.

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5) No, China is not trying to hack into the pentagon.


Wow. That's all I can say. Well I guess the americans wouldn't tell the public, but china was trying to get into the american network, I'm not sure if they still are, but they were.

Well, sure can't expect americans to watch docmumentary's about their own defense system.
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Feb 11, 2012 5:34 AM #592090
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You actually thought I was serious. If your not smoking weed, I pity you.



No, just at you. They have no reason to fire them at the rest of world.



Wow. That's all I can say. Well I guess the americans wouldn't tell the public, but china was trying to get into the american network, I'm not sure if they still are, but they were. Show me one fucking shred of evidence as to why this is true and it isn't you making shit up, which you probably are.

Well, sure can't expect americans to watch docmumentary's about their own defense system.

A) There's a such thing called Mutually Assured Destruction. One of the reasons why the Cold War never escalated is because if Russia launched nukes at the US, the US would strike back. But England would too. So Russia would have to hit England. And England would have to hit Russia's allies. It'll reach a point where every world power will take a nuke, and by this point, nukes will just fly for random reasons. Pakistan, seeing the nukes flying around, would nuke whoever they wanted to. Eventually, so many nukes would create a "Nuclear Winter", in which vast waves of radiation would sweep across the globe and kill everyone.

B) Don't get "conspiracy theorist" with me. "OH MAN, I BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT DID SOMETHING BAD, AND EVEN THOUGH THEY CAN PROVE TO ME THEY DIDN'T, I STILL THINK THEY DID SOMETHING BAD." with that argument, I could create a solid case as to why the founding fathers were all walrus'.
We are not enemies with China. We need them as much as they need us. We are trade partners. And trying to hack into their database isn't a very fucking sound trade policy.

C) Documentary? Really? Documentaries, for the most part, are produced by independent groups, and everything in them is protected under the First Amendment. I could technically make a documentary about how Obama's really Osama in disguise, but I have no evidence to support such a claim, therefore no such documentary has been made. This applies to the whole database hacking thing. shit, we have documentaries about 9/11.

You're just paranoid because "What I saw in Call of Duty is true!!!! The Russians and Chineeses are out to get us!!!" Grow the fuck up and read some books, homie.
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Feb 11, 2012 5:40 AM #592096
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A) There's a such thing called Mutually Assured Destruction. One of the reasons why the Cold War never escalated is because if Russia launched nukes at the US, the US would strike back. But England would too. So Russia would have to hit England. And England would have to hit Russia's allies. It'll reach a point where every world power will take a nuke, and by this point, nukes will just fly for random reasons. Pakistan, seeing the nukes flying around, would nuke whoever they wanted to. Eventually, so many nukes would create a "Nuclear Winter", in which vast waves of radiation would sweep across the globe and kill everyone.

B) Don't get "conspiracy theorist" with me. "OH MAN, I BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT DID SOMETHING BAD, AND EVEN THOUGH THEY CAN PROVE TO ME THEY DIDN'T, I STILL THINK THEY DID SOMETHING BAD." with that argument, I could create a solid case as to why the founding fathers were all walrus'.
We are not enemies with China. We need them as much as they need us. We are trade partners. And trying to hack into their database isn't a very fucking sound trade policy.

C) Documentary? Really? Documentaries, for the most part, are produced by independent groups, and everything in them is protected under the First Amendment. I could technically make a documentary about how Obama's really Osama in disguise, but I have no evidence to support such a claim, therefore no such documentary has been made. This applies to the whole database hacking thing. shit, we have documentaries about 9/11.

You're just paranoid because "What I saw in Call of Duty is true!!!! The Russians and Chineeses are out to get us!!!" Grow the fuck up and read some books, homie.


They were done by the american government, Man it's fun trolling someone who still doesn't know your trolling. Seeing as doesn't have any nukes, and assuming england doesn't the aussie army to russian, their good. Man, your taking this way to seriously. I Pwn3 Joo has had the best anwser so far.
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