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Mar 26, 2012 12:33 AM #621936
People implying all mentally disabled people are suffering and want to die should learn that that's not true in the slightest. I may be only slightly autistic, but that slight bit of autism has shielded me, and kept me from ever thinking of suicide as a "way out" death is the final door, and if you are religious, chances are your chances at eternal happiness are said to be deminished by suicide. I've never even cut myself or taken pleasure from another's death. Why ruin what you have when no one is really 100% sure what's waiting? even the bad experiences are something you can't have when you're dead, and with heaven being perfect (which is impossible, any two human's perception of perfection is relative, not absolute) and all the other illogicals in religion, we really only have our logical universe.
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Mar 26, 2012 12:45 AM #621940
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People implying all mentally disabled people are suffering and want to die should learn that that's not true in the slightest. I may be only slightly autistic, but that slight bit of autism has shielded me, and kept me from ever thinking of suicide as a "way out" death is the final door, and if you are religious, chances are your chances at eternal happiness are said to be deminished by suicide. I've never even cut myself or taken pleasure from another's death. Why ruin what you have when no one is really 100% sure what's waiting? even the bad experiences are something you can't have when you're dead, and with heaven being perfect (which is impossible, any two human's perception of perfection is relative, not absolute) and all the other illogicals in religion, we really only have our logical universe.


I like to think that nothing is impossible, Heaven is perfect, and not only is eternal happiness diminished by suicide, but rendered impossible, unless you take pleasure in an eternity of pain and suffering. In [certain] religions suicide is basically a one way ticket to hell.
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Mar 26, 2012 1:23 AM #621962
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then let me mouthfuck you it would be like killing two birds with one stone


You're not my type, mister
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Mar 26, 2012 3:26 AM #622018
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I like to think that nothing is impossible, Heaven is perfect, and not only is eternal happiness diminished by suicide, but rendered impossible, unless you take pleasure in an eternity of pain and suffering. In [certain] religions suicide is basically a one way ticket to hell.

In certain religion so is masturbation
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Mar 26, 2012 9:38 AM #622175
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You're not my type, mister


I'm offering both anal and fellatio literally at the same time. Of course I'm your type. I'm everyone's type.
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Mar 26, 2012 11:09 AM #622197
how would stan's heaven be dave's heaven? stan likes to play the trumpet, but dave finds the trumpet annoying. etc
you'd have to brainwash everyone or keep everyone seperate.
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Mar 26, 2012 4:09 PM #622279
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What gives them the right to kill themselves? Regardless of who it is they are killing it is still killing, I'm sorry for believing that murder is wrong.


Wow.

Read the legal definition of murder, which is a legal term. The fact that you can't even distinguish between the two despite their blatantly obvious differences makes me think I'm wasting my time here.

If you really think suicide is an awful thing then you would be against it, instead you see it as "Oh hey, this guy wants to kill himself, whatever it's his right to do so."


That's not what I said. In fact I'm pretty sure I said it's a horrible thing when someone kills themselves.

I'd try to convince someone not to do it too. It's a last resort and most people skip right to it without giving it enough thought. If they have, however, then by all means it's their right to do it. I'll be upset if they do, but who am I to say they shouldn't do it? Who am I to say it's "unacceptable"? It's up to them, not me. That's all I'm saying. Deeming it unacceptable is a judgement from me onto them, and I'm not arrogant to judge someone on a matter as personal as this.

You refused to make that distinction until now. You offered one specific, shitty example of when it *might* be acceptable, and dismissed all others as unacceptable. That's complete bullshit, I called you out on it, and you did nothing to actually support that view.

Now that you finally took the time to explain things, your position isn't as controversial as you made it seem at first.
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Mar 26, 2012 7:32 PM #622360
I feel that we shouldn't have the right to tell someone how to run there lives, whether it be into the ground, or into their dreams and goals, but I feel that suicide is one of the worst choices that anyone can make even for the paralyzed man in UK. I don't even know him, and I felt like I was going to tear up looking at his smiling face in the first photo. If one, single, fully coherent individual being makes the choice to grit their teeth and push on through life, I feel it shows that they are that much stronger, but if that same mentally capable person chooses to end their life, I feel that it is their choice, but(through my eyes) they most likely felt they were too weak to make any other choice. My opposition to suicide is not influenced by religion, I do not like many of the religious sects that claim to be the ultimate path. My opinion could be considered quite naive in the sense that it is influenced by a desire to preserve all forms of life that has the ability to prevent itself from infringing upon other lives' existence.
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Apr 2, 2012 5:03 PM #626515
Personally, I'd like the train to reach the station, not blow it up mid-track by myself. If life is so meaningless, there shouldn't be a reason not to see it through, maybe something interesting will happen. However, if you are suffering and this suffering won't end till your last breath, in my own opinion thats a free choice, either wait it out or end it pre-maturely. Whats right for the individual basically.
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Apr 2, 2012 5:52 PM #626527
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If life is so meaningless, there shouldn't be a reason not to see it through


If life is meaningless, there shouldn't be a reason to see it through either.
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Apr 2, 2012 8:03 PM #626607
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If life is meaningless, there shouldn't be a reason to see it through either.


That is true, I guess that decision can only be solved by what the individual thinks.
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