The Anime/manga thread (+ recommendations!)

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Jul 17, 2012 12:11 AM #699273
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Unless Hellsing wasn't serialized then the author couldn't have been lazy. (Or he would have been cut off right away.) It's more likely that the animation studio wanted an original plot for the anime so it wouldn't have to have fillers. (Since manga is released monthly while anime episodes are usually running every week,) Or the mangaka didn't want the anime to have the same plot so people would still have to buy the manga to read the original story.


Well I can't find the details but I know the "original plot" was not the case. Especially since if it was, there wouldn't be so many similarities at the beginning of the show but then it diverges off to a different plot entirely. Usually when they make differences it's subtle, for example:
the original full metal alchemist was different from the manga, but not radically. It's all minor things or added story archs "except for the ending of the show".
Hellsing diverged off into it's own plot entirely after a certain point because they ran out of actual manga chapters to base episodes on. This happened to other shows such as gantz, except in that show they just put a slapdash ending in and call it a day. Hellsing had not fulfilled all it's episodes it was booked for, so they had to heavily improvise. It would make no sense for them to follow the plot closely but then suddenly change their minds and do their own thing.

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GODDAMNIT TENMA do you not sleep ._.
and anyway, I'm going to have to agree with jutsu on this right here. The origional hellsing story was entertaining even if the animation wasn't the best. That doesn't really matter much to me. The new one I just got bored with and dropped... I mean....... Nazis?.. Really?

Admittedly hellsing ultimate is much more stunning visually, but as I've said the original has substantially more style and atmosphere. Ultimate almost feels like over time the fans have gotten to them and slowly pushed more and more arbitrary violence into the series.
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Jul 17, 2012 12:27 AM #699285
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GODDAMNIT TENMA do you not sleep ._.
and anyway, I'm going to have to agree with jutsu on this right here. The origional hellsing story was entertaining even if the animation wasn't the best. That doesn't really matter much to me. The new one I just got bored with and dropped... I mean....... Nazis?.. Really?

Lol yes I do. I just woke up. And I like the manga plot more. Vampire nazis can't be taken seriously ofc but, hell what can be taken seriously in hellsing? It's a fun and stylish gorefest or dark stuff, so nazi vampires gets a pass from me. The anime ending seemed very meaningless. The villain was a very weak and uninteresting character and it simply felt like a filler arc to me if anything. No one has the right to go 1 v 1 with Alucard.
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Jul 17, 2012 12:30 AM #699289
I found something.

Q: Why didn't the TV series use the story from the manga?
A: OK, here's what happened.
The Hellsing manga was created first. Next came the TV series. The problem was that the TV series used up plot material faster than Kouta Hirano could complete it. After the TV series had used up all the storylines from the manga, the series creators had to complete the season by writing their own stories.
That's why the TV series more-or-less follows the manga until Episode 6, and then veers off into different territory. The series producers had run out of manga material.
The TV series fans noticed this splitting-off effect, and have often concluded that the TV series was canceled halfway through the season, or that it ran out of money. Both of these rumors are false. They just ran out of official manga material to base their episodes on.

Source: http://myplace.frontier.com/~damage.com/crossroad/hellsing_ova_questions.html

It looks like my theory was correct.

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Lol yes I do. I just woke up. And I like the manga plot more. Vampire nazis can't be taken seriously ofc but, hell what can be taken seriously in hellsing? It's a fun and stylish gorefest or dark stuff, so nazi vampires gets a pass from me. The anime ending seemed very meaningless. The villain was a very weak and uninteresting character and it simply felt like a filler arc to me if anything. No one has the right to go 1 v 1 with Alucard.

It's okay for you to like the mangas plot more, I was just pointing out why the original series had a more solid plot than Ultimate especially considering the situation they were in. No studio would enter into making a show knowing that they'd run out of material. It had to have been a hiccup on the manga writers part.
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Jul 17, 2012 10:17 AM #699496
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I am not saying that the original is better, on the contrary. Ultimate is better in many ways, production value, animation quality etc.
But ultimates plot can't really earn as much praise to me considering that the writer has had a GRATUITOUS amount of time to write it compared to the other guy. Plus I actually prefer the original Alucard, he's more complex and his developments are nice.

Granted ultimate is clearly more badass. But condemning the original because it is less epic and badass without considering the following is shallow and I feel is an obvious lack in anime taste refinement.


The anime is a piece of shit, imo. By the end they had shit all over the manga and made the story and characters incomprehensible messes, especially when compared to how Hirano crafted everything. Incognito is a stupid villain. Also, you should probably be aware that the OVAs are basically direct conversions from the manga after the mangas were released.
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Jul 17, 2012 4:32 PM #699669
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The anime is a piece of shit, imo. By the end they had shit all over the manga and made the story and characters incomprehensible messes, especially when compared to how Hirano crafted everything. Incognito is a stupid villain. Also, you should probably be aware that the OVAs are basically direct conversions from the manga after the mangas were released.


I am pretty strict about following the storyline of the manga, if it's any good.
I think ultimate and the mangas storyline is not as good. I prefer the plot of the original and the villain incognito over freaking nazis.

This is the point where our contrasting opinions collide, but we pretend to argue facts against each other right? Heh, it just boils down to a difference in taste. But you're the first one I've met who actually thinks the OVAs plot is better.
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Jul 17, 2012 6:56 PM #699737
In contrast, you're the first person I've met who thinks the anime series was better, and I was part of a hellsing cosplay group at a convention. lol
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Jul 17, 2012 7:10 PM #699742
Heh, cosplay? That sounds like it could work out terrible.
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Jul 17, 2012 9:24 PM #699784
It was alright. I don't like cosplaying though, I only do it because I get suckered into it.
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Jul 17, 2012 11:05 PM #699816
I got a pretty clutch impersonation of alucard, but I think he's one of those characters that should just not be cosplayed.
Like Spike.

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Jul 18, 2012 8:55 PM #700368

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Jul 21, 2012 7:39 PM #701987

chikin? oa biifu?
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Jul 22, 2012 10:30 AM #702370
I think I just found the most pointless anime ever (a friend if mine told me to check it out, tbh :I):

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Jul 22, 2012 7:16 PM #702646
It's not that pointless. It provides 45 minutes of fanservice which is exactly what they wanted to do... It's about as pointless as k-on
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Jul 22, 2012 7:36 PM #702661
wtf? is that a porn or somekind of strange anime?
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Jul 22, 2012 8:08 PM #702683
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wtf? is that a porn or somekind of strange anime?


You ever heard of a porno of girls sleeping? I've heard of a sleeping (and snoring) fetish before, so idk
I'm going with "strange anime" on this.