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there is a 50/50 chance of a god existing

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Sep 23, 2012 4:00 PM #745029
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The Big Bang theory is a THEORY that has many scientific support


I really wish people would educate themselves, or at least read most if not all of a thread before posting. Let's make sure to note that the Big Bang theory is a scientific theory, the distinction makes a world of difference here.

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And Jesus fucking christ, please not another Automaton vs Jeff scenario, PLEASE.


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Sep 23, 2012 4:10 PM #745035
Your claim was "There is a 50/50 chance of a god existing" not, "I think there is a 50/50 chance of a god existing" so my point is "no that's fucking retarded"
I said you shouldn't put down NUMBERS on a probability you have no idea about. ( and you're STILL doing it! )
saying something is improbable and saying that something has 90% chance of improbability are two DIFFERENT things

I still don't think you understand what it means to say 50/50 nor how probability with numbers work.

If there was a jar with 1 blue marvel and 1 red marvel, THEN you have a 50/50 chance of picking either one of them.
If 5 out of 10 people survived the operation, THEN you have a 50/50.
This shit is easy cmon man

The expression that something is more likely =/= (insert numbers) / (insert numbers)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^do you get that?

What you're doing is saying that 2 shit you have absolutely no clue about have chances of existing.


" What I was saying is that there's 2 categories: 1) intelligent creation, 2) non-intelligent creation (ignoring the infinite universe theory, because if that were the case then it would just bring 50/50 down to 33/66, which would still serve the purpose of saying that a deity is more probable than strong atheists believe). " - you

You're create a logical fallacy by eliminating the choices down to 2. You don't know shit about other religion you just disregard ( and just put them under ONE category. that is a heavy step bro) them and some how magically come up with the number 50/50.

I AM mocking your belief because it gives an absolute answer to an unanswerable question just like any other fucking religion. Not only that, you went as arrogant as to make a statement that "there IS a 50/50 chance"
Here's a mystery box.
Theist: there's a cat in there.
Agnostic: we are uncertain of what is in there
You: there's a 50/50 chance that a cat is in there.

You don't know any information about the said God you claim to have a 50% chance of existing just abstract concepts that are commonly used as mere beliefs.
You might as well form your own 50/50 religion and have people half worship a god that has a 50% chance of existing just like you said boy.
Make a book about how there is an absolute 50% chance that a creator exists.

If you admit that you "thought what counts as possibility counts as possibility", THERE SHOULDN'T BE A PROBABILITY AS ABSOLUTE AS 50/50! mathematical probability does not/should not be bent by personal observation, do you get it yet? I can't stress this enough lol

If it has huge flaws like any other religion, what's the point of distinguishing yourself to be different from beliefs based on faith?

THIS IS SO STUUUUUUPPPPIIIIIIIDDDDD
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Sep 23, 2012 5:34 PM #745073
Oreo I really think you should just stop talking forever, or at least until you can communicate like a stable and mature human being. You're freaking out right now, and none of the things in your post are even relevant to this debate anymore because they've all been discussed.
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Sep 23, 2012 6:24 PM #745107
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Your claim was "There is a 50/50 chance of a god existing" not, "I think there is a 50/50 chance of a god existing" so my point is "no that's fucking retarded"
I said you shouldn't put down NUMBERS on a probability you have no idea about. ( and you're STILL doing it! )
saying something is improbable and saying that something has 90% chance of improbability are two DIFFERENT things

I still don't think you understand what it means to say 50/50 nor how probability with numbers work.

If there was a jar with 1 blue marvel and 1 red marvel, THEN you have a 50/50 chance of picking either one of them.
If 5 out of 10 people survived the operation, THEN you have a 50/50.
This shit is easy cmon man

The expression that something is more likely =/= (insert numbers) / (insert numbers)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^do you get that?

Yeah, I understand. I understood before page 10 weeks ago when this thread was made. Read it all if you want to carry on the discussion on this particular topic, because as far as I'm concerned, you're addressing something that's already been addressed. I'm OK with people continuing the discussion on the actual OP, but only if something new is being brought to the table.


You're create a logical fallacy by eliminating the choices down to 2. You don't know shit about other religion you just disregard ( and just put them under ONE category. that is a heavy step bro) them and some how magically come up with the number 50/50.

why are you being so hostile? If you read my posts you'd see that grouping gods together is logical for the specifications that I gave. "You don't know shit about other religion you just disregard"? What does that even mean? I didn't disregard any religion, and I certainly do know about other religions...

I AM mocking your belief because it gives an absolute answer to an unanswerable question just like any other fucking religion. Not only that, you went as arrogant as to make a statement that "there IS a 50/50 chance"
Here's a mystery box.
Theist: there's a cat in there.
Agnostic: we are uncertain of what is in there
You: there's a 50/50 chance that a cat is in there.

Yes, this has been discussed. I agree. Still, no reason to mock it.

You don't know any information about the said God you claim to have a 50% chance of existing just abstract concepts that are commonly used as mere beliefs.
You might as well form your own 50/50 religion and have people half worship a god that has a 50% chance of existing just like you said boy.
Make a book about how there is an absolute 50% chance that a creator exists.

Now you're just making yourself look like a dick, "boy". How do you know I don't have any information about the God I claim to have a 50% chance of existing? Also I didn't claim that a specific god had a 50% chance, I claimed that there's a 50% chance of ANY god existing (i.e. just something that's intelligent), get it right. Make a book about it? Why would I make a book about something that I disagree with? Clearly you just skipped over the post where I told you that this has been discussed before and I changed my mind, and continued to post in order to boost your ego and prove what an "idiot" I am. Arguing for arguing's sake.

If it has huge flaws like any other religion, what's the point of distinguishing yourself to be different from beliefs based on faith?

The whole point of distinguishing between what I believed and what a religious person believed is that:
1) What I was arguing was the case of a Deity, NOT a specific god which is by DEFINITION, more unlikely than a Deity.
2) I wasn't arguing for the existence of it, I was arguing against the idea that the non-existence of a deity is more likely than the existence of it. You said to me that I shouldn't bring numbers into it, but if I say "a god isn't more unlikely than likely, but it also isn't more likely than unlikely", then what I've just said fits what you allow but is EXACTLY the same as saying 50/50.

THIS IS SO STUUUUUUPPPPIIIIIIIDDDDD

A lot of what you said isn't even relevant to what I was actually arguing, and the fact that you're even arguing it when it's been argued and resolved before is stupid.
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Sep 23, 2012 6:29 PM #745112
Automaton: I think the school PA system is just a bunch of midgets with tape recorders in a series of tubes that run throughout the building.
Person B: That's silly, the construction plans for this building that I have very clearly show no signs of said series of tubes.
Automaton: Oh! I am mistaken, thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
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Sep 23, 2012 6:37 PM #745117
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saying something is improbable and saying that something has 90% chance of improbability are two DIFFERENT things


Yeah you're 16 pages late.

Unless you thought my explanation wasn't nearly as insulting as it should be.
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Oct 12, 2012 9:23 AM #757444
lol Im reading back on what i wrote and i was being a total dick. Sorry about that Automation.
I actually got reported for that post so I came to check it again !
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Oct 12, 2012 10:16 AM #757469
No problem man, we all get a bit angry at some point in these debates.
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