However, we DO have proof that he is not watching my statue: (he builds wall as Cycloids are attacking and OOSes seconds after).

You ever heard of moving your screen between locations very quickly?

If he hated you, and was going to win the match, I don't know what would be more silly, believing he OOSed a win for himself, or believing that he OOSed without checking if he was going to lose

If you get lots of videos with him showing OOSes then that would be more indicative of a 10% OOS rate implying cheating going on, rather than chance.

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You ever heard of moving your screen between locations very quickly?

If he hated you, and was going to win the match, I don't know what would be more silly, believing he OOSed a win for himself, or believing that he OOSed without checking if he was going to lose

If you get lots of videos with him showing OOSes then that would be more indicative of a 10% OOS rate implying cheating going on, rather than chance.

We don't need 10% OOS rate in this case. 10% OOS rate is only for cases without video (smh)

I just proved in the previous post that he was not going to win from his perspective. You did not read this. His giant cannot attack statue and he only has 2 mages+3 spears vs. 4 Cycloids with Tornado and 3 airs. If even 1 water comes out to freeze mage he 100% loses, not to mention earth.

The fact that we played 10 seconds earlier without OOS and he OOSes next game proves it is not a bug.

You are trying to twist around that he is guaranteed to win like i have no units left and he OOSes and oh, he's cheating, no. The truth is, I have 1100 gold left and and good player will realize that actually, I DO win the game.

You cannot both say he is good enough to win but not good enough to anticipate waters freezing his mages and earth stunning spears. That is contradictory. You have no point.

Videos make this analysis so much easier, thanks.

You did not buy any waters during this statue rush, and your water you had by your statue was taking two electric walls to the face, so I can probably assume it died just after your screen sweeped away.

He starts attacking your statue at 4:10. At 4:13 your statue has only 3/4 of its health left. He has 4 miners on mana at 4:16 implying he has built up a decent mana pool especially as he wasn't fighting much before this statue race. At 4:22, 12 seconds into thegayone attacking your statue, you reach his. At 4:30 you have reduced his statue to 3/4 health. This dps took 8 seconds. Thegayone's dps to deal the same damage to your statue took 3 seconds.

From the electric wall casts at 4:10 and the time that will have passed by 4:30, thegayone's electric walls will have both been recasted as the cooldown is less than 20 seconds on electric wall. Even if thegayone had no mana after casting the first set of electric walls, the miners still praying at 4:30 mean he regained more than enough mana to recast the electric walls.

Given we have established that 2 electric wall casts + misc damage chunked 1/4 of your statue hp in 3 seconds, at 4:33 it is reasonable to assume that your statue is at less than half health given he also has blast that he will have casted blast twice per mage on your statue as well. Also, we see a third mage of his walking over to your statue much earlier, so he may have casted yet another electric wall off that mage and another spell blast by 4:33
2 electric walls + Misc damage chunked about 1/4 of your statue

He will have been able to cast 5 electric walls and 5 blasts by 4:33
This suggests he had your statue around 1/4hp remaining, whereas you had his statue only at 2/3rds hp.

No sensible person is going to OOS a won match.

"1) it is 100% sufficient in proving that there is no OOS loop which is the "bug" you claimed in thread"
Fight fire with fire. No proof that the replay you provided was made during the time of supposed OOS. Still no proof of the other OOS.

"now, you are changing your story "he was probably going to win""
I am not changing any story. My recent post was regarding your insufficient evidence.

"The truth is any good player will know this is not the case."
This is a derogatory post criticizing the players not believing you. The irony is that most people here have a high rating, so I'm not sure what your judging criteria is.

"1) We cannot see how much mana he has and how he uses it. He has only 4 miners on mana and 3 mages and very well may not have enough to constantly do electric wall with all 3 (especially if he poisons miners) ( +may have spears/mage/albow in production) "
Only 4 miners on mana? Seriously? 4 miners on mana is quite enough to continually spew spells. Plus blast damage in itself doesn't need mana. If he had troops in production, it's obvious he would stop making them to cast more spells.

"2) Giant is not attacking statue. It cannot attack through miners. Therefore, he only has 2 mages (another in middle of map) and 3 spears."
The miners are not directly in the giant's line of fire. The giant can attack the statue.

"3) He is thinking: "he is going to bring waters/earths and freeze my mages+attack (with stun)". I could do this with 1100 gold but i didn't (only my bad play)"
What the fuck. How do you know what he is thinking? You don't.

"4) He sees my airs about to attack his statue. 4 Cycloids with Tornado + 3 airs = stronger than 2 mages + 3 spears (especially when we cannot see if he is getting spells off)"
Based on other replays I've seen of you, you rarely use Cycloid. Still, this has to be tested and even if you are right, I've crushed your other statements.

My nearly complete conclusion:
Pineapple lost a match previously. Then he got OOS in the next match(s). He is either making the extra OOS' up or they really happened and this is a bug. Because it is clear the gay one has not exploited. This is relevant because every OOS end screen shows the screen of your previous battle, not the current one as it is an OOS. There is no proof thegayone hates pineapple. There is no proof there were other OOSes. There is no proof Pineapple lost any rating other than in the replay he posted. Hope my point is made.


Edit: Just saw Skele's post, this fills in my holes. GG.

I can almost hear the fast typing and strained breathing.

Consider the evidence for a moment.
We have 1 video of thegayone with an OOS where thegayone was most likely winning

Even if thegayone was losing, this wouldn't be proof enough, as OOSes can happen entirely by chance. As thegayone was in all probability winning, given he had much better dps units and more time to take down Pineapple's statue, thegayone OOSing on purpose is even less credible of a claim.

This thread is for bugs or problems, Pineapple, come back with better evidence or stop making accusations you can't support. I do not want OOSers in the game either, but accusing people with insufficient proof that for all we know are innocent is not the way to go about dealing with abusers.

As far as i am aware I've beaten thegayone many more times than he has to me.
If I was to be considered a threat he most likely would've oos'd me each time my un appeared.
Thegayone has never once done that to me.
Oos's can happen at any time.
Out of sync= two or more people previously sync'd in Internet have managed to lose this connection.
An Internet based thing cannot be directly pointed at a player with extreme certainty.

Thegayone never OOS'ed me. NEVERRR

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Thegayone never OOS'ed me. NEVERRR

me too

._.
I complained about this bug over 15 pages ago
I keep losing so much damn points.
I get into loading screen, then it says my opponent timed out and I've lost a bunch of rating.

@Order of development; The video comes days later, during our next encounter, of an OOS at the end of a game I am clearly winning. Furthermore, we have a match 10 seconds prior which clearly displays theGAYone beating me with no OOS.
Doesn't matter when it came. That doesn't show anything.

@Reasoning; Now, the stance has changed from "bug", "OOS loop", "random", etc. to "not enough evidence", "he was probably going to win", etc.
They all work.
Your screenshots are irrelevant.
The proof against your statements are great than the ones that support them.
There is no proof he hates you.
There is no proof of other OOS.
There is no proof you actually lost rating.
etc ect

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@Order of development; The video comes from our next encounter days after I give word, not the other way around.

@Reasoning; Now, the stance has changed from "bug", "OOS loop", "random", etc. to "not enough evidence", "he was probably going to win", etc.

@DPS; Mathematically he has no chance to win. It is not possible for him to destroy my statue before I do his. If you think otherwise, learn math.

@Castle archer; it is irrelevant, i have an advanced water underneath

I will sum up your view:

We can't take your word, screenshots and matching timing alone. We need video proof of him OOSing when he is about to lose.

*We match up days later* oops, he wins and no OOS - hopefully we can rematch

*We rematch 10 seconds later* I am about to win - OOS

Sorry, but this video is not enough proof. We now require a minimum of 4 videos of him OOSing in 10 matches.

Yeah, I probably do need medication to deal with this s@#&.

gg i'm done

Order Of Development; You're a dumbass. I mean your word as in, who you are. Not when you warned us. I don't care that you told us that you think this guy is OOS'ing and two days later you made this video. I have no idea who you are. I have no idea what kind of person you are. For all I know, you could be pissed off because someone pissed in your cereal and you're trying to take it out on "ThatGAYone" because you dislike gays or some bullshit like that.

Reasoning wise; You're a dumbass. I said 40%. I'm throwing a number out of my ass, but a short video and a reply =/= 40%. Unless you've played 5 games in total, and he's OOS'ed two of them......than you're still a dumbass. My opinion has always been, you don't have enough proof. Now, it's; you don't have enough proof, and you're a dumbass.

Mathematically; You're a dumbass. He had three spears, a giant, two magikills, and a flying crossbowmen. He possibly also had resilience on the way if he didn't have it already as well as castle archer. I don't know if he has any mana to keep casting spells, but I shall assume he does.
You had four flying things, and three airs. You had resilience on the way/finishing.
For some reason, I feel like he wins that race.

Castle Archer Wise; Last time I checked, it does "AOE" damage. Meaning your "advanced water" is taking damage, and since you have him hidden behind the castle, will probably die since you can't see his health.

You want to sum up my view? I'll do it for you.
You're a dumbass.

As Katio says, it could possibly be a bug, an OOS loop, luck, it could be anything. I don't know, I'm not on both sides of the computer, and monitoring the server at the same time. That doesn't mean it is, it just means it could be. As in, you could be right. Doesn't mean you are, just means you could be.
Now, do me a favour, stop making a fool out of yourself, and go find real proof, if you're so sure of yourself.

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I'm a lazy asshole, so I'm not going to read [any posts].

"Now, I'm going to respond to the posts I haven't read! My points surely won't reflect anything that has been covered already! Pineapple; YOU'RE a dumbass!"

xD (smh)

p.s. We play 4 games, he OOses 3 right at the end when i'm about to win and the only one he doesn't is when he clearly wins.

"derp but you need to keep risking your elo to get 4 more videos of the same thing derp"

p.p.s. just to clarify i don't expect you to change your position (or anyone else for that matter), just pointing out how funny your responses are

Actually, they are real points. This game deals with real money. A LOT, of real money.

It is very hard to get people to signup to recurring payments, let alone pay upfront for years for a game. We hope, therefore, that the game will be secure against players hacking the system.

You can try to play that whole game of devaluing our success (by that, I mean, anyone who works hard to increase their ranking) and ridicule someone who doesn't want to risk losing more than the 42 elo i've already lost getting a video as requested but at the end of the day, you call me a fool, I say it takes one to know one.

p.s. once again, I don't expect your view to change, naturally, just poiting out flaws such as you basing more evidence needed on thinking I could be a lying homophobic who just wants to sabotage this guys account.

my mother is homosexual you #$%@

edit: took out that last word, want to take the high road even though this is just starting to piss me off

w/e i have nothing more to say. if i get another clear video like the one there already is i'll post it and if not, it's not my fucking game at the end of the day so you can leave hackers here, idgaf