Thats pretty much what happened.
that summary is on point

Sounds right.

I just want to punch everyone i hear bitch about politics. We have problems, they try to fix them, people bitch about it. They dont fix them, people bitch about it. What is everyone else doing to try to improve the country? Nothing, thats what i thought.

Fucking bitches.

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Someone who knows about Obama's "obama care" explain it for me.

As I understand it:

America's hospitals are run privately. Treatment is hilariously expensive so essentially if you want to have healthcare you have to buy insurance. Previously the insurance companies could refuse to cover you for a pre-existing condition, ie. if you were born with sickle-cell anaemia* you would never get insured/treated. Obama passed legislation to prevent companies from discriminating against people with pre-existing conditions, however in order to do so he had to make it compulsory for everyone to buy insurance, otherwise you just wouldn't buy insurance until you got sick. Some people are bitching about being forced to buy insurance. Other people are bitching about having to pay more for insurance because they have to cover the costs of people with pre-existing conditions.


*This was the first long-term condition which sprang to mind. I don't know if it's relevant or even if it actually gets treated.

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America's hospitals are run privately.

What, all of them?

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What, all of them?

Basically, yes

I hear there are one or two charity-run ones, but I think they're woefully underfunded and a bit shit.

Although Obama has done a few things I'm really not so fond of (Extending the Patriot Act, secret war with Yemen, etc. etc.), Mitt Romney is a sadistic motherfucker.

The guy wants to privatize the country to make life easier for his buddies on Wall Street, while that "47%" he talked about on the leaked video starves to death in the streets.

You know the scariest part about that? It honestly wasn't an exaggeration...

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Other people are bitching about having to pay more for insurance because they have to cover the costs of people with pre-existing conditions.

It seems weird to me that people would be upset about helping other people

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It seems weird to me that people would be upset about helping other people

Welcome to the world. We're all assholes here.

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It seems weird to me that people would be upset about helping other people

Because america

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I hear there are one or two charity-run ones, but I think they're woefully underfunded and a bit shit.

Some of Obama's healthcare reforms also include children being allowed to remain under their parents' health insurance policy until they're twenty six, which is a no-brainer imo. A lot of people don't like Obamacare because it's principle of obligatory healthcare is similar to communism, because that's what the party complains the democrats are trying to instate in the country. I understand healthcare is expensive, but you need it to make it through whatever life throws at you.

Also, I want to add that the Romney campaign is just a plague of drivel and inconsistencies without any facts and logic to back up the claims that they're making. And they're all really stupid so the election would be Obama's if the American public wasn't just as stupid

EDIT: This thread has restored my faith in the human race and it's ability to point out logical fallacies, thank god

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A lot of people don't like Obamacare because it's principle of obligatory healthcare is similar to communism

Just like how choosing what to eat for dinner is a capitalist affront to Mother Russia.

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lmao, you're 14, what do you know about health insurance? what's "stupid" about it?

cuz oboama care meens hes gona fors u to get inshuruns or u get tacks!!! because you know, the individual mandate is apparently the focal point of obama care, rather than getting insurance to people with pre-existing conditions since the only thing ignorant conservatives give two shits about when it comes to politics is anything involving new taxes

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Basically, yes

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I hear there are one or two charity-run ones, but I think they're woefully underfunded and a bit shit.

That's fucking stupid.