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Who is the strongest character In all of fiction?

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Oct 23, 2012 1:38 AM #766604
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Hulk vs the celestials
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It's theoretically possible that The Hulk could beat them. It may be another case of no body wins or loses, though. Apocalypse recruited The Hulk with the intention of using his nexus-energy to overpower the Celestials, and he knows a lot about them. Celestials are also not completely indestructible, one of them was completely destroyed by Thanos in Thor.
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Oct 23, 2012 1:46 AM #766614
Jeff VS Hulk
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Oct 23, 2012 1:50 AM #766627
There would be a lot of gay sex.
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Oct 23, 2012 4:56 AM #766797
everyone knows rainbow dash is the strongest
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Oct 23, 2012 12:21 PM #766996
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Do you not read what I'm writing? Seems like you read 2 words and then jump to a false conclusion. It's been removed because another writer decided that wasn't a weakness for the Hulk, and wrote a reason why it no longer applies, that was the whole reason why I said he suffers from continuity.

Your point? This is irrelevant. He's still smart as shit.

Where, how, and why is there still content being made with him in it? If he has been killed, his story would be over. He always returns in one form or another. This is the downside of arguing fictional characters.

Doctor Manhattan has never been stated to be that powerful. You are regarding him as some sort of deity that has absolute control. His limits are never touched on in the graphic novel, but being that his character is based off of Captain Atomic, it's likely that he has a limit, seemingly within the realm of what is possible in our universe. As such, snapping his fingers and suddenly becoming "1,000,000,000,000,000 times more powerful" is completely fallacious and entirely subjective. Regardless, anything he could do with such "power" is counteracted by The Hulk's resistance to anything Doctor Manhattan could do to him. Good game.

Hulk has lifted his hammer before, just to point out. See my previous point as to why this is entirely irrelevant.

Do you have some sort of reading disability? Are you just picking out what you want to hear? Read what I said. I said "constantly". He wouldn't have time to "kick my ass" before he's disintegrated again. His power to construct himself a physical form out of atoms becomes completely neutralized and he is no longer a threat. Doctor Manhattan isn't a flawlessly created character.

Killing Bruce isn't technically killing The Hulk, they are separate entities. When I talk about The Hulk, I'm referring to his form separate from Bruce.

I could say the same about you. If it was removed, how was it done and more than once? If you drain the gamma radiation from Banner, he is unable to turn into the hulk for a limited time (I think), which is when you can kill banner. One of his main enemies, drained him and then beat him unconscious. If I wrote a comic and said that the hulk could fly by picking his nose, would that make it so?

If his limits are never touched, than we are to assume he has none.
Also, no where can I find anything about the hulk being immune to reality warping.

The hammer thing was an example, nothing more.

Okay, so you disintegrate him, he comes back, you do it again, repeat, etc. Eventually, he'll take the weapon apart, atom from atom. Then what are you going to do? Hell, the weapon could lose power or something.

Yes and no. If you kill Banner when he is unable to transform into the hulk, then the hulk would die too.

Popeye would kick the hulk's ass too.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/61170/1166302-superman_vs_goku__super.png
He did that with half a can of spinach. Imagine what he could do with say...10 cans.
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Oct 23, 2012 1:26 PM #767039
I'd go for FLLFFL.
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Oct 23, 2012 2:39 PM #767067
In his ultimate fighting zone, The Flash would have already took a shit on Hulk's mouth, snapped Dr. Manhattan's thumb off, ate some lunch, gone 40272936 times around the Earth, and fell in love even before the Hulk and Dr. Manhattan, or just basically anyone else, traveled .00001 seconds into the future.

To beat the Hulk, he would just pose and be the sexy fictional character that he is and make the Hulk fall in love with him, thus, completely removing Hulks anger. After that, when Hulk is all weak and lovestruck, The Flash would just plant a time bomb set to .01 seconds in the Hulk's mouth and go to the other side of the world.

To beat Dr. Manhattan, The Flash would just snap Dr. Manhattan's dick's head off even before he knew they were going to fight. You might say he'd know they'd fight even before the flash would know they'd fight, but this knowledge would be useless since Dr. Manhattan is predetermined to lose. It is predetermined because I already called it.

So, The Flash is the ultimate supreme fictional character.

I seriously have as much knowledge about this shit as ants have about black holes.
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Oct 23, 2012 2:44 PM #767072
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In his ultimate fighting zone, The Flash would have already took a shit on Hulk's mouth, snapped Dr. Manhattan's thumb off, ate some lunch, gone 40272936 times around the Earth, and fell in love even before the Hulk and Dr. Manhattan, or just basically anyone else, traveled .00001 seconds into the future.

To beat the Hulk, he would just pose and be the sexy fictional character that he is and make the Hulk fall in love with him, thus, completely removing Hulks anger. After that, when Hulk is all weak and lovestruck, The Flash would just plant a time bomb set to .01 seconds in the Hulk's mouth and go to the other side of the world.

To beat Dr. Manhattan, The Flash would just snap Dr. Manhattan's dick's head off even before he knew they were going to fight. You might say he'd know they'd fight even before the flash would know they'd fight, but this knowledge would be useless since Dr. Manhattan is predetermined to lose. It is predetermined because I already called it.

So, The Flash is the ultimate supreme fictional character.

I seriously have as much knowledge about this shit as ants have about black holes.

But you see, Dr Manhattan, could just remove the flash's powers or something. No more...flashy-ness.
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Oct 23, 2012 3:26 PM #767094
But I said the flash would have already snapped his dick off. Well technically flash can't do that, but he can send Dr. Manhattan in a black hole or something even before Dr. Manhattan could react to this.
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Oct 23, 2012 4:43 PM #767135
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I could say the same about you. If it was removed, how was it done and more than once? If you drain the gamma radiation from Banner, he is unable to turn into the hulk for a limited time (I think), which is when you can kill banner. One of his main enemies, drained him and then beat him unconscious. If I wrote a comic and said that the hulk could fly by picking his nose, would that make it so?


In canon, it's a linear progression. If it happened once, and then LATER is written out, then the character in it's current state doesn't have that weakness. Why is this hard to grasp? It's like saying you could kill Captain America without his shield because he didn't get his shield until later, thus his weakness is that he is defenseless. That doesn't make any sense. Further still, even if the Hulk was still susceptible to having his gamma drained, it was never touched on whether that actually meant he was gone for good, and given that he later came back would indicate that The Hulk was never gone, so I don't know why you're focused on this point because I've proven it's irrelevant multiple times and you're just sitting there repeating yourself.

You also don't know for sure what you are even talking about. Why are you still trying? If Banner is killed, the Hulk still lives, they are separate entities. There are several instances where The Hulk and Banner are separated, as well. It's been said many times in this thread that Banner could die and he would just turn in to the Hulk permanently. Also, anything you wrote wouldn't matter because it's not official published canon, that's not how it works. If that were the case, I would just write that any character could be destroyed by my will and then suddenly all characters are weak.

If his limits are never touched, than we are to assume he has none.
Also, no where can I find anything about the hulk being immune to reality warping.


Uh, no. If his limits are never touched upon, then you assume you don't know what they are. That's like saying, "I've never seen any instances where Spider Man hasn't been able to fly, therefore we must assume he can fly and simply hasn't done it yet." You are using backwards logic. Also, read harder, I've already provided citations which are freely available on the internet.

Okay, so you disintegrate him, he comes back, you do it again, repeat, etc. Eventually, he'll take the weapon apart, atom from atom. Then what are you going to do? Hell, the weapon could lose power or something.


You still don't get it. If the disintegration effect is continuous, he couldn't come back in the first place. Coupled with Tachyon interference, Doctor Manhattan would be rendered physically non-existent and time-confused.

Yes and no. If you kill Banner when he is unable to transform into the hulk, then the hulk would die too.


False. You still don't demonstrate a single solid shred of knowledge about the Hulk and his story. Go back and google some more, maybe?

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But you see, Dr Manhattan, could just remove the flash's powers or something. No more...flashy-ness.


Doctor Manhattan doesn't have this ability. He's not a god, his powers are limited to control over matter. I think you are far over reaching with your assumptions about him. This is why he can't stop Laurie from vomiting when they teleport, or why he can't control the emotions of people surrounding him, because his abilities don't reach that far.
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Oct 23, 2012 4:50 PM #767148
Infinity is OP as fuck, anyone mention it yet?
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Oct 23, 2012 4:59 PM #767155
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Infinity is OP as fuck, anyone mention it yet?


lol not yet.... good option tough xD

Lol looks like Jeff really enjoys commenting in this thread :3
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Oct 23, 2012 5:02 PM #767160
i dont care what yall say wolverine and hulk are the strongest in the marvel universe
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Oct 23, 2012 5:05 PM #767161
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Lol looks like Jeff really enjoys commenting in this thread :3


As someone who has spent a lot of time talking with friends and looking into this stuff, it offends me when someone else pretends to be knowledgeable when all they do is consult google and their friend for backup. Also I like flexing my knowledge muscle.
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Oct 23, 2012 5:59 PM #767187
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Lol looks like Jeff really enjoys commenting in this thread :3


at least we knew a part of jeff
he knows a lot of things in this domain
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