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Aunt May wraps her Vagina around Hulk's head and asphyxiates him.

ok ...........

ok i think i got a really stoopid idea :we merge all the characters who were mentioned previously (exept GOD of course)and voila...the ultimate fictional charactere !am i right ?

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In canon, it's a linear progression. If it happened once, and then LATER is written out, then the character in it's current state doesn't have that weakness. Why is this hard to grasp? It's like saying you could kill Captain America without his shield because he didn't get his shield until later, thus his weakness is that he is defenseless. That doesn't make any sense. Further still, even if the Hulk was still susceptible to having his gamma drained, it was never touched on whether that actually meant he was gone for good, and given that he later came back would indicate that The Hulk was never gone, so I don't know why you're focused on this point because I've proven it's irrelevant multiple times and you're just sitting there repeating yourself.
You also don't know for sure what you are even talking about. Why are you still trying? If Banner is killed, the Hulk still lives, they are separate entities. There are several instances where The Hulk and Banner are separated, as well. It's been said many times in this thread that Banner could die and he would just turn in to the Hulk permanently. Also, anything you wrote wouldn't matter because it's not official published canon, that's not how it works. If that were the case, I would just write that any character could be destroyed by my will and then suddenly all characters are weak.
Uh, no. If his limits are never touched upon, then you assume you don't know what they are. That's like saying, "I've never seen any instances where Spider Man hasn't been able to fly, therefore we must assume he can fly and simply hasn't done it yet." You are using backwards logic. Also, read harder, I've already provided citations which are freely available on the internet.
You still don't get it. If the disintegration effect is continuous, he couldn't come back in the first place. Coupled with Tachyon interference, Doctor Manhattan would be rendered physically non-existent and time-confused.
False. You still don't demonstrate a single solid shred of knowledge about the Hulk and his story. Go back and google some more, maybe?
Doctor Manhattan doesn't have this ability. He's not a god, his powers are limited to control over matter. I think you are far over reaching with your assumptions about him. This is why he can't stop Laurie from vomiting when they teleport, or why he can't control the emotions of people surrounding him, because his abilities don't reach that far.

Okay, so, when was this weakness taken out? Also, by your logic, if I were to make a comic saying the hulk can fly by picking his nose, he's able to, just because it's in a comic?
Every time banner has tried to commit suicide, or was about to die, the hulk took control and saved him because he COULD. If you kill banner when the hulk CAN'T take control and save him, he will die. Ever watch Naruto? The nine tailed fox can take control of Naruto and use his body, has amazing strength and powers, and yet, when it's suppressed so much, Naruto losses that ability to use/be controlled by the fox.
Bad analogy. First Spider-man movie he tried to fly. He failed. Also, you you haven't. All you've done is provide a link where it tells people what reality warping is. So, until you at least find a link, he can be reality warped, and be beaten by Dr M.
That one, you have somewhat of a point. As I understand it, would he not be able to un-denigrate himself elsewhere and take out the power source or something?
Doesn't the flash move quickly because he speeds up his atoms or something at a molecular level.

Also

Jon's near-limitless powers

A clear limit to his powers is never explicitly shown, however perhaps his biggest limitation appears to be apathy. In some sense, unlimited power has come at the cost of the total absence of responsibility, and his phenomenical omnipotence is juxtaposed with his growing detachment.

So he does have a limit....a limit for caring for something.

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Alex Mercer gets repeatedly assraped by regular human beings. Check and mate, fgt

Not true. He gets his ass shot a lot, but doesn't get raped by them.

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There is probably someone that could beat the hulk.
I would guess on Spawn, because the hulk dosen't have any weapons forged in the heavens, so yeah, he would crush the hulk.

That would be a good matchup.

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But most gaming websites have said he's one of the most powerful game characters ever created, and so I listed him. Calm down you beast.

Gaming Characters, in the first game, he is probably close to one of the most powerful when fully maxed out. The ability to glide for extended periods of time, being bullet proof, able to run into a car and have it go flying, while having Hulk-like fists able to crush tanks, a pair of claws like wolverine, etc. (I don't really understand why they changed the entire story in number two....or why he became un-able to kill Heller....but still)

I STILL SUPPORT MY THEORY, POPEYE WOULD WRECK THE HULK.
They both kind of work at the same level. Popeye eats spinach and gets stronger (he also has an unlimited supply) while the hulk gets angry and gets stronger.

Note: I've been away for a bit. Shitty hotel internet.

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Okay, so, when was this weakness taken out? Also, by your logic, if I were to make a comic saying the hulk can fly by picking his nose, he's able to, just because it's in a comic?
Every time banner has tried to commit suicide, or was about to die, the hulk took control and saved him because he COULD. If you kill banner when the hulk CAN'T take control and save him, he will die. Ever watch Naruto? The nine tailed fox can take control of Naruto and use his body, has amazing strength and powers, and yet, when it's suppressed so much, Naruto losses that ability to use/be controlled by the fox.
Bad analogy. First Spider-man movie he tried to fly. He failed. Also, you you haven't. All you've done is provide a link where it tells people what reality warping is. So, until you at least find a link, he can be reality warped, and be beaten by Dr M.
That one, you have somewhat of a point. As I understand it, would he not be able to un-denigrate himself elsewhere and take out the power source or something?
Doesn't the flash move quickly because he speeds up his atoms or something at a molecular level.

Also


So he does have a limit....a limit for caring for something.



Not true. He gets his ass shot a lot, but doesn't get raped by them.


That would be a good matchup.


Gaming Characters, in the first game, he is probably close to one of the most powerful when fully maxed out. The ability to glide for extended periods of time, being bullet proof, able to run into a car and have it go flying, while having Hulk-like fists able to crush tanks, a pair of claws like wolverine, etc. (I don't really understand why they changed the entire story in number two....or why he became un-able to kill Heller....but still)

I STILL SUPPORT MY THEORY, POPEYE WOULD WRECK THE HULK.
They both kind of work at the same level. Popeye eats spinach and gets stronger (he also has an unlimited supply) while the hulk gets angry and gets stronger.

Note: I've been away for a bit. Shitty hotel internet.

You do know that popeye is on the same level as with obelix
http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=712146

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Okay, so, when was this weakness taken out? Also, by your logic, if I were to make a comic saying the hulk can fly by picking his nose, he's able to, just because it's in a comic?
Every time banner has tried to commit suicide, or was about to die, the hulk took control and saved him because he COULD. If you kill banner when the hulk CAN'T take control and save him, he will die. Ever watch Naruto? The nine tailed fox can take control of Naruto and use his body, has amazing strength and powers, and yet, when it's suppressed so much, Naruto losses that ability to use/be controlled by the fox.

^ Taking this as a theory, Yagami light from death note could easily kill banner

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No Dora from Bleach. Der.

http://www.fanfiction.net/Bleach_and_Dora-the-Explorer_Crossovers/1758/5639/

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^ Taking this as a theory, Yagami light from death note could easily kill banner

Maybe and no. By JUST writing his name in the death note, he could not. Now, if he wrote something that would somehow result in him being unable to turn into the hulk and died from getting his head cut off or something, than maybe...

Lol obviously not JUST writing his name.... Writing at least 2 pages of how will he die xD

why are people still debating thisssikbhlguigyglh
and why are all the things that end up being debates in general discussion

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Lol obviously not JUST writing his name.... Writing at least 2 pages of how will he die xD

Lol. What did you think of the second season ? (Like, where N started appearing)

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Lol. What did you think of the second season ? (Like, where N started appearing)

Everyone hates the second season. Near is a bitch who is leeching off of L's work and should have died a horrible death.

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Everyone hates the second season. Near is a bitch who is leeching off of L's work and should have died a horrible death.

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Okay, so, when was this weakness taken out?

First of all, it was never really a weakness to begin with. I should clarify that, because in an early issue of Hulk it is revealed that Hulk's body creates and radiates gamma energy, so already "draining" something that creates energy doesn't make a whole lot of sense, because the Hulk can just make more. The issue with Rulk draining Hulk I've touched on already, stating that the Hulk wasn't killed or gone, he was just suppressed. Later on, he's brought back out again by Banner himself. This is possibly sloppy writing by the author, but that's okay by me.

If you really want to get down to it, here's an excerpt from the marvel wiki about Hulk's powers:

Among [The Hulk's] most amazing feats are [...] overcoming a power-draining mechanism which contained much of the combined power of himself, Doctor Strange, the Silver Surfer and Namorp

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If the Hulk wanted to, due to being bullshit OP, he would just produce more and more gamma while he was murdering the person draining him.

Also, by your logic, if I were to make a comic saying the hulk can fly by picking his nose, he's able to, just because it's in a comic?

No, you buffoon. I already explained why that doesn't work. I'm getting tired of re-answering your questions.

Also, anything you wrote wouldn't matter because it's not official published canon, that's not how it works.

When Marvel releases official material, that material becomes canon. If Marvel decided tomorrow to release a Hulk novel in which he sheds his corporeal form and becomes pure energy, then we would all have to accept that The Hulk is now a ball of energy. A lot of people wouldn't like it, but that's too bad, because Marvel owns the character and can do what it wants.

Every time banner has tried to commit suicide, or was about to die, the hulk took control and saved him because he COULD. If you kill banner when the hulk CAN'T take control and save him, he will die. Ever watch Naruto? The nine tailed fox can take control of Naruto and use his body, has amazing strength and powers, and yet, when it's suppressed so much, Naruto losses that ability to use/be controlled by the fox.

First of all, The Hulk and Banner are not from Naruto. Comparing the two is irrelevant, because they are separate characters from separate universes. I don't know why you thought it would make a good comparison.

Second, I can go two ways with this. One way would be to point out that we are talking about the Hulk, not Bruce Banner. I COULD say that it is irrelevant, because during the battle with Onslaught, banner and Hulk literally separate into two separate entities (this is how The Hulk eventually gets hired by Apocalypse), and that Bruce wouldn't even come in to play in this case. However, I'm going to point out that very recently a comic was released that not only split banner and hulk, but shows Hulk trying to kill banner and failing. All it did was merge the two back together. Any time Banner is "killed", the hulk takes over. The Hulk could be running around with a dead Banner somewhere inside him and it wouldn't matter to him.

Bad analogy. First Spider-man movie he tried to fly. He failed.

It's not a bad analogy, you just missed the point. The point is that it doesn't make sense to assume someone can do everything until they are proven otherwise. Using your same logic, if spider-man tried one way fly and wasn't able to, that doesn't mean he can't do it, it just means he hasn't been shown doing it yet. Or just because I've never seen batman teleport to the center of the earth doesn't mean he can't. The analogy isn't even what's important, the point is that you are using backwards logic.

Also, you you haven't. All you've done is provide a link where it tells people what reality warping is. So, until you at least find a link, he can be reality warped, and be beaten by Dr M.

I'm sorry you missed it, here let me get it nice and big so you wont this time:

That one, you have somewhat of a point. As I understand it, would he not be able to un-denigrate himself elsewhere and take out the power source or something?

Yes. If it is a continuous effect, he wouldn't be able to establish a physical form. As soon as he gets within range of whatever is producing the effect, he's gone again.

I,m learning sooo much with these posts xD, please, keep going

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First of all, it was never really a weakness to begin with. I should clarify that, because in an early issue of Hulk it is revealed that Hulk's body creates and radiates gamma energy, so already "draining" something that creates energy doesn't make a whole lot of sense, because the Hulk can just make more. The issue with Rulk draining Hulk I've touched on already, stating that the Hulk wasn't killed or gone, he was just suppressed. Later on, he's brought back out again by Banner himself. This is possibly sloppy writing by the author, but that's okay by me.
If you really want to get down to it, here's an excerpt from the marvel wiki about Hulk's powers:

That's the point. Now, I could go on, but seeing as how my idea has never been tested, it is unknown weather or not it will work. So lets leave it at a possibility.

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If the Hulk wanted to, due to being bullshit OP, he would just produce more and more gamma while he was murdering the person draining him.

Well, a mechanism was used. Several people I listed, do it using abilities. So it's a bit different.

No, you buffoon. I already explained why that doesn't work. I'm getting tired of re-answering your questions.



When Marvel releases official material, that material becomes canon. If Marvel decided tomorrow to release a Hulk novel in which he sheds his corporeal form and becomes pure energy, then we would all have to accept that The Hulk is now a ball of energy. A lot of people wouldn't like it, but that's too bad, because Marvel owns the character and can do what it wants.

That one, I'll give you.

First of all, The Hulk and Banner are not from Naruto. Comparing the two is irrelevant, because they are separate characters from separate universes. I don't know why you thought it would make a good comparison.

They both follow somewhat of the same rules. Both have very powerful beings that can take control of their body (banner turns into the hulk, naruto can turn into the giant fox). The same as Jackie from the Darkness (somewhat).

Second, I can go two ways with this. One way would be to point out that we are talking about the Hulk, not Bruce Banner. I COULD say that it is irrelevant, because during the battle with Onslaught, banner and Hulk literally separate into two separate entities (this is how The Hulk eventually gets hired by Apocalypse), and that Bruce wouldn't even come in to play in this case. However, I'm going to point out that very recently a comic was released that not only split banner and hulk, but shows Hulk trying to kill banner and failing. All it did was merge the two back together. Any time Banner is "killed", the hulk takes over. The Hulk could be running around with a dead Banner somewhere inside him and it wouldn't matter to him.

Also, on one of the links you've posted somewhere, it states "the hulk knows, if banner dies, he dies." Granted, the wording may be SLIGHTLY different, But it's still the same....So yeah. (I can't find it, but then again, I'm not really looking for it)

It's not a bad analogy, you just missed the point. The point is that it doesn't make sense to assume someone can do everything until they are proven otherwise. Using your same logic, if spider-man tried one way fly and wasn't able to, that doesn't mean he can't do it, it just means he hasn't been shown doing it yet. Or just because I've never seen batman teleport to the center of the earth doesn't mean he can't. The analogy isn't even what's important, the point is that you are using backwards logic.

Well, you never know. If they make a comic and say he can fly, then I guess he can fly! Also, in the video games (:p) he basically can fly. Given enough time, and if batman wanted to, I'm sure he could teleport to the center of the earth.

I'm sorry you missed it, here let me get it nice and big so you wont this time:

I can only read PART 1/3 of those(The third ironically) and no where in there, does it say that he is immune to reality warping, granted, I can't read the entire thing.

Yes. If it is a continuous effect, he wouldn't be able to establish a physical form. As soon as he gets within range of whatever is producing the effect, he's gone again.

So it's an AOE pulsating effect. Then could he not take it out from a distance?


I asked a few of my buddies what they thought of this.
This was one of the responses :

If we're going by "all of fiction," then of course Hulk can be killed. There are countless multitudes of characters able to affect things at extreme levels, even going into the spiritual depths.

Dr Manhattan could disassemble the Hulk at the atomic level and splatter his remains across the universe, effectively killing him.

In anime, you have Death Note. Write his name down and boom. Dead.

I didn't read into the thread you posted because I'm not in the mood to read 22 pages of "I'm a nerd. This is canon." "I'm a bigger nerd. This is better canon." "You're both nerds. Your canon sucks. My idea is better." "mudkips trolololol"

All I know is, if there is a character anywhere that doesn't have the capacity to die and effectively cease affecting the world around them, then the creator of that character loses all of my interest. If Hulk falls into this category, then Stan Lee/Marvel did it wrong.

And yes, I know characters can be/have been revived. They've done it before and will do it again. But that doesn't count towards "He can't die because he can just come back to life from this other person's spell or through medical breakthroughs." It counts as "He can be revived, but he can still simply die."