Is god evil?

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Nov 1, 2012 2:11 PM #775198
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So short, yet the most correct post here.


If by "correct" you mean "biased toward what I already believe is true", then I agree.

It contained nothing verifiable, no logic, no reasoning, nothing but generalized statements that can't be supported or disproven with evidence. It's about as bad as an argument can be in a real debate.
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Nov 1, 2012 2:11 PM #775199
if you guys believe in god so much, try to disprove this

also why don't you come out with some actual proof of that he exist? just like NASA do when they search for their things, i haven't seen any christian come up with any actual proof
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Nov 1, 2012 2:14 PM #775201
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also why don't you come out with some actual proof of that he exist?


Uh, if proof existed, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Unless you can explain exactly how the universe started, and then provide enough evidence to prove your claim, then shut up. Your post had absolutely nothing to do with the topic, this isn't about whether or not god exists.
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Nov 1, 2012 2:21 PM #775208
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But God can be "evil", although I find this term misleading, to people who are evil, which is fair, obviously. For example a rapist, doesn't a person who is heartless enough to force women and children to have sex with him for his own personal pleasure, and then kill them, therefore making him a murderer too, deserve to be killed or sent to hell?


In a famine babies die too. Ergo famine is not punishment for sin. If God wants to punish sinners he should use a series of pinpoint lightning strikes.

I conclude with all this that God is fair. He treats us on how we deserve to be treated from both a religious and humane point of view.
God is even more than fair he is good, since if you look at it that way, God made us live, can you repay him for what he had given you, on the contrary he is giving you even more. Everything you own is from God. You should at least be grateful by doing what he says.


My point is that he hasn't told us to do anything. I'm sorry if you find this offensive, but I see nothing separating Mohammed from your everyday schizophrenic. God could give clear messages without prophets. He could carve a message for us on the fucking moon if he wanted, but he hasn't and because of that there are differing views on morality and some people will suffer for it.
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Nov 1, 2012 2:26 PM #775212
In my personal beliefs God is gay
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Nov 1, 2012 2:29 PM #775215
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In my personal beliefs God is gay


So you don't grateful what have you got until now??
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Nov 1, 2012 2:30 PM #775217
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So you don't grateful what have you got until now??

Are you saying that being gay is a bad thing?
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Nov 1, 2012 2:32 PM #775220
god is totally evil -_-
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Nov 1, 2012 2:32 PM #775221
I'm not mentioning about gay. bLa2

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god is totally evil -_-


Okay why???
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Nov 1, 2012 2:35 PM #775226
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I'm not mentioning about gay. bLa2

Does anyone here speak n00b? If so, please translate the message this individual is trying to convey.
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Nov 1, 2012 2:38 PM #775228
Oh you.I'll try
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Nov 1, 2012 2:38 PM #775229
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Okay why???

look around dude, you see your life is good so you thing god is good but open your eye a little big than now! some people are suffer alot, some baby event have die when that been born, does baby have anything to punish
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Nov 1, 2012 2:44 PM #775236
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I've never really believed this, but do you have a way of relating this to the topic assuming it's true?

Well I too believe good and evil are deeply interlinked,but not in a way we conventionally assume.And since most of the posts in this thread either point to God as being a badass and evil,or they believe He's just not good enough at his own game,I have an alternative theory for you guys to feast upon.

Consider the statements, " good being victorious over evil", or "good defeating evil" .Honestly these statements make no sense to me. (I'm not talking reality-wise or anything,just with their definitions) Because,to defeat something,beat it beyond the point of rising up again,I believe you got to have an evil instinct yourself. Therefore "defeating" evil cannot be done unless you yourself have the instinct to go ahead and rip its head off,and for that you need to have a bit of evil in yourself.

I guess you see the point i'm trying to make,that for good to defeat evil it has to have a bit of evil within itself,and therefore defeating the very purpose.Hence it can never be done.And evil can never be "defeated". Let us now make the assumption that God is a purley good being,head to toe.YOu obviously no can imagine that knowing of all the evil in the world,he cannot go out and simply end it for that shall require evil on his part,which is out of the question.

Then what can be done to defeat evil,say you?I find answer in the approaches of leaders like M.K. Gandhi,who believed that the only way you can defeat your enemy is not by physical methods but by making them realise what is right and what is wrong,by appealing to their soul,and you shall have your way surely.There is an entire thing on Satyagraha,you can read it on the net somehere later.Basically its defeating evil by turning it to good.

Its time consuming,though,and you could imagine God's position.You could realise that being too "good" comes at its own price,people start thinking that your bad and impotent(as most people here) ,call you names and stop believing in you,and you still cant do nothing because you are good. Hence i believe God too suffers,despite being omnipotent,but its all for a cause! :) (hes not some bad ass dancing away with all the ladies!!! )(funny to imagine that though)

Well its just a theory though,and it explains to my own little brain of why there is so much unbalance in the world,so there you go :)
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Nov 1, 2012 2:46 PM #775240
It's a challange.Some reasons god did that.Well,the best way to prevent from that all thing is "Hudud".It's a punish system that really working.Once you made a crime,:=1.Stealing-Cut hand
2.Sex with people who are not married yet-Boom!!Guess what??
Just that all I can explain.Well I heard that people won't do the same thing again.(With hudud).But believe on God,if god is evil,why you have a good life??Why you have money??Why you have parents and all things??Don't ever say god is evil
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Nov 1, 2012 2:48 PM #775244
like i say before, god created humen in his own image and now human is evil, so does he