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if I get power out of nowhere, that makes me morally justified to torture people with it? To cause harm? That's absurd.

people that he created them and gave them a beautiful universe to live in and then some of them just come and deny his existence and refuse to respect the rules he made ? sounds fair to me !

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people that he created them and gave them a beautiful universe to live in and then some of them just come and deny his existence and refuse to respect the rules he made ? sounds fair to me !

If he purposefully hides all evidence of his existence from us, and then punishes us for not believing in it, that's malicious. That's like teaching your kid to swear for 10 years and then starting to punish him for swearing.

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If he purposefully hides all evidence of his existence from us, and then punishes us for not believing in it, that's malicious. That's like teaching your kid to swear for 10 years and then starting to punish him for swearing.

life is a test after all...besides...why do you think he sent prophets ?

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life is a test after all...besides...why do you think he sent prophets ?

If he really wanted to show us that he exists, he could simply do it without making us rely on 2000 year old text by anonymous authors, gone through hundreds of translations.
If he made us, he knows exactly how our thought process works, and that we need evidence to support a claim, before we accept it as reality.

Also, life is not a test, because tests are supposed to be fair.

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If he really wanted to show us that he exists, he could simply do it without making us rely on 2000 year old text by anonymous authors, gone through hundreds of translations.
If he made us, he knows exactly how our thought process works, and that we need evidence to support a claim, before we accept it as reality.

Also, life is not a test, because tests are supposed to be fair.

by evidence you mean miracles ? well...as Muslims our miracle is qur'an and i personly red things like descoveries were made by humans in this century...although they are already mentioned in this glorious book that was written 1400 year ago !

im not going to talk about these things because it will be off topic...you can make a new thread for it !

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by evidence you mean miracles ? well...as Muslims our miracle is qur'an and i personly red things like descoveries were made by humans in this century...although they are already mentioned in this glorious book that was written 1400 year ago !

im not going to talk about these things because it will be off topic...you can make a new thread for it !

That's pretty shitty evidence. If he really did want to give us tangible evidence, he could. (On another thread Zed said something along the lines of: A huge diamond structure appearing forever that says that god exists.) An old book isn't tangible evidence of the supernatural.

don't judge a book from its title...and like i said...that will need a new thread...so yeah whatever !

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don't judge a book from its title...and like i said...that will need a new thread...so yeah whatever !

Lolwhat? I'm judging it by its content. And alright, going to make a thread about that later, maybe.

Are you guys talking about making another 'God' thread?-these are getting old, I think this needs to be binned. (just my loserish opinion)

So, how would you describe people coming back to life without medical intervetion? Some come back with vivid stories of heaven. Obviously some are lying, but its happened to many people.But, you might not believe them. For example, my grandfather, was always honest, never lied, and trusted people too much. Also, he was the nicest man ever, respected women, didnt smoke or do drugs and had no bad habits. He loved his children and was a godly man, he kept promises and hoped others were trustworthy. He loved to work and was always loved to joke. He never beat his children our divorced. If a man like him, a man you respect, love and trust. Told you he died, and came back, wouldn't you believe him? You can tell when his voice is normal, and he doesn't lie in that voice. Or the excorsism of Emily Rose, do you believe she was 'playing'? Others, who didnt know them,' would think, uhh, they are lying.' All they want is the publicity and money.

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Are you guys talking about making another 'God' thread?-these are getting old, I think this needs to be binned. (just my loserish opinion)

So, how would you describe people coming back to life without medical intervetion? Some come back with vivid stories of heaven. Obviously some are lying, but its happened to many people.But, you might not believe them. For example, my grandfather, was always honest, never lied, and trusted people too much. Also, he was the nicest man ever, respected women, didnt smoke or do drugs and had no bad habits. He loved his children and was a godly man, he kept promises and hoped others were trustworthy. He loved to work and was always loved to joke. He never beat his children our divorced. If a man like him, a man you respect, love and trust. Told you he died, and came back, wouldn't you believe him? You can tell when his voice is normal, and he doesn't lie in that voice. Or the excorsism of Emily Rose, do you believe she was 'playing'? Others, who didnt know them,' would think, uhh, they are lying.' All they want is the publicity and money.

Lying is saying something you know isn't true. If he believed that that actually happened to him, then he wouldn't be lying. As for exorcisms, those are people with mental illnesses being "helped" by other people with mental illnesses (priests and whatnot).

"Those who profess a belief in demonic possession have sometimes ascribed the symptoms associated with mental illnesses, such as hysteria, mania, psychosis, Tourette's syndrome, epilepsy, schizophrenia or dissociative identity disorder." - Thank you Wikipedia

The people possessed by "demons" are just in need of medical help, not superstitious lunatics.

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Lying is saying something you know isn't true. If he believed that that actually happened to him, then he wouldn't be lying. As for exorcisms, those are people with mental illnesses being "helped" by other people with mental illnesses (priests and whatnot).

"Those who profess a belief in demonic possession have sometimes ascribed the symptoms associated with mental illnesses, such as hysteria, mania, psychosis, Tourette's syndrome, epilepsy, schizophrenia or dissociative identity disorder." - Thank you Wikipedia

The people possessed by "demons" are just in need of medical help, not superstitious lunatics.

Yes, but if you knew the person. Wouldn't you believe them?
People tried to describe her with a mental illness. And in need of medical help? Please, your ignorance of the case is what destroys what you just said. Do you know that she took pills? And was taken to hospitals? They tried everything, and guess what? The medicine didn't do sh*t. And you know why? Because she didn't have any of the illnesses the doctors said she had. Yes, sometimes they have those illnesses, but I, don't have any- thank you doctor checkup

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Yes, but if you knew the person. Wouldn't you believe them?
People tried to describe her with a mental illness. And in need of medical help? Please, your ignorance of the case is what destroys what you just said. Do you know that she took pills? And was taken to hospitals? They tried everything, and guess what? The medicine didn't do sh*t. And you know why? Because she didn't have any of the illnesses the doctors said she had. Yes, sometimes they have those illnesses, but I, don't have any- thank you doctor checkup

Simple medicine can't help all mental illnesses otherwise the world would be perfect. I can't believe you would say my ignorance, when you yourself are the ignorant one.
And just because you know someone doesn't mean they always tell the truth. I also already explained how he most likely didn't think he was wrong.
You are a superstitious lunatic who probably needs help yourself.

Explain to me how I am being ignorant

You misuse of words is shameful. I think you need to go study more before you use 'big' words like lunatic. I already told you I am not mentally ill, and have been checked up for it.-courtesy of my doctor.

And when did I say simple medicine. For Pete's Sake can you at least use your eyes and read for once Cobalt?Please, I think that would help both of us.
And I should reporting you for flaming.

God's a good guy, I saw him once on that episode of the Simpsons.

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you took that from spiderman right ? well GOD gave spiderman powers to help people...and he is not allowed to use them in the wrong way !

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