belive in god a magical guy, same like kid belive in santa

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Explain to me how I am being ignorant

You misuse of words is shameful. I think you need to go study more before you use 'big' words like lunatic. I already told you I am not mentally ill, and have been checked up for it.-courtesy of my doctor.

And when did I say simple medicine. For Pete's Sake can you at least use your eyes and read for once Cobalt?Please, I think that would help both of us.
And I should reporting you for flaming.

You are one of the most idiotic people I've ever had the displeasure of speaking with.

I think this will sufficiently explain the thing that you have trouble grasping.

"Anneliese Michel (21 September 1952 – 1 July 1976) was a German Catholic woman who was said to be possessed by demons and subsequently underwent an exorcism. The case has been labelled as a misidentification of mental illness, negligence, abuse, and religious hysteria.^[1] Three motion pictures, The Exorcism of Emily Rose, Requiem, and the Asylum film Anneliese: The Exorcist Tapes, are loosely based on Michel's story."

Btw Emily Rose is a character from a movie based on Anneliese Michel. You are obviously the ignorant one because you don't know ANYTHING about the shit you spew from your face. It's a well known fact that religious exorcisms are just rituals performed by superstitious nitwits(like yourself) on people with mental illnesses.

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oh yeah he force us to love him, "you love me or you gone to hell"

When the crap did I say he forced us? Did God HAVE to make us? No,and in my opinion it is ignorant to shun God after how much detail he put into us.Also,I said ''As much as it pains him'',did you even take time to read and comprehend thoroughly what my post meant?

God is my savior from heaven, sending me to hell.

Let's all hold hands and touch little children under the church bells.

god killed every one on earth but except Noah(and hes family i think) once, how can this god be good :s?
and you'll also be send to hell just because you don't believe in him, doesn't sound like a loving god to me

*SIGH* before we prove his good or bad we need to prove if his myth or real...so this thread is pointless until we prove that he exists !

note : dont reply on this because i will not return to this thread again !

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I question everything, because I need to be able to tell reality from fiction. We humans are capable of critical thinking. Utilize this ability

Man no offense but that's what we Christians believe questioning our God??? Just who the hell are you?? Your an ant to our God(no offense leokill)

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Man no offense but that's what we Christians believe questioning our God??? Just who the hell are you?? Your an ant to our God(no offense leokill)

Please try to speak coherent English. I don't understand what you mean by: "Man no offense but that's what we Christians believe questioning our God???"

And to answer your question, I am a human being, who bases his understanding of world on evidence, so that it accounts for reality as accurately is possible. A god's authority or power should be only taken in to count after you have sufficient evidence to believe that he exists, thus questioning his existence comes before fearing any sort of punishment.

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Oh, thanks for the correction Automaton.

So basically any of the Abrahamic gods, right? Go ahead and explain why any of those are neutral then.

Well actually, in my belief the Abrahamic "gods" are actually the same God, just with different names given to him. Anyway to the main point. All what basically God wants from you is to believe that he is one and that he is the creator of all, well because he is. You just need to think deeply enough to conclude that. And that's basically it. All other rules of religion are to:
First, ensure stability of this world; these are the basic rules of humanity to ensure fair treatment between people and keeping morals and helping the community in general. For example lying is a sin in religion, theft, murder, etc. And some other rules that include paying charity to the poor and other things for the community as a whole.
Secondly, these are the rules that include prayer and other things that in this world, might seem rather useless. They actually are a means of showing loyalty to God. Well then one might say if God is all mighty shouldn't he be able to tell what is in our hearts? Yes he can, but he is asking for you to show it because if God did punish people according to what he knows only, not what shows to us mortals, some people, usually the sinners, might consider it an unfairness to how come God punished them and they did nothing to prove to him there belief in him? Well here you go, you could do these specific things to show your belief in God and now you have no excuse.
Now you might say but why should I be forced to believe in God? Well your not forced your free in this world, but well get punished for not believing. It's basically because it is the least you can do for God, since he created you. Lets give an example: If some rich person gave you a lot money, you would probably thank him as much as you can, even work for him. You wouldn't deny what he did for you unless your some sort of sociopath. Now god gave you existence, so at least you should believe that.

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All what basically God wants from you is to believe that he is one and that he is the creator of all, well because he is. You just need to think deeply enough to conclude that. And that's basically it.

"Because he is"? That's basically it?

That's what you consider deep thinking?

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If some rich person gave you a lot money, you would probably thank him as much as you can, even work for him. You wouldn't deny what he did for you unless your some sort of sociopath. Now god gave you existence, so at least you should believe that.

I should believe in a god because this god gave me existence? What makes you so sure?

I fucking hate it when atheists demand proof when there clearly isn't any, but at the same time you need to stop speaking as if you're stating obvious facts.

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Lets give an example: If some rich person gave you a lot money, you would probably thank him as much as you can, even work for him. You wouldn't deny what he did for you unless your some sort of sociopath. Now god gave you existence, so at least you should believe that.

If I won the lottery, and then some person came up to me claiming that he somehow magically made me win the lottery, I wouldn't believe him without any evidence. Just the fact that I won the lottery has nothing to do with him proving that he somehow made it happen.

Also, your analogy assumes that life inherently has any value. I'd rather not live, than live forever in eternal agony. The quality of your life has value, not life on its own.

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I fucking hate it when atheists demand proof when there clearly isn't any.

Atheists ask for proof because that's what a rational mind is supposed to do when someone presents to you an extraordinary claim ( such as the existence of some supernatural being that judges your sexuality and cares about what you eat) as a fact. You know this.

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Atheists ask for proof because that's what a rational mind is supposed to do when someone presents to you an extraordinary claim ( such as the existence of some supernatural being that judges your sexuality and cares about what you eat) as a fact. You know this.

I said he shouldn't say those things as if they're factual, so yes, I do know that.

My point was that atheists typically suck at explaining what they believe in a rational and logically consistent manner as well, so one side shouldn't be criticizing the other for something both are guilty of.

The point you responded to was simply an acknowledgement that factual claims don't exist in religious debates, and while I wasn't asking for proof, he shouldn't be speaking as if he has it, because one necessarily leads to the other and it's a ridiculous way for both sides to debate a topic relating to the unknowable.

why do you even think that there need to be a god?(for those who think there *need* to be one)
what's the point of it?
sorry if i was going off topic, but i would like to know why

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why do you even think that there need to be a god?(for those who think there *need* to be one)
what's the point of it?
sorry if i was going off topic, but i would like to know why

so that you feel you are not alone...

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Man no offense but that's what we Christians believe questioning our God??? Just who the hell are you?? Your an ant to our God(no offense leokill)

"Yeah Leo, how dare you think. Thinking is the enemy of God!" Fuck's sake, really?

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before we prove his good or bad we need to prove if he's myth or real

Yeah good luck with that. The only thing that could remotely be considered proof is the Bible, and that's part of the same mindset of this picture