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Nov 16, 2012 2:36 AM #788384
I want your opinions on the two flying units in the game.
The Order's Flying Crossbowmen (Allbowtross)
450/200/4/600(?)

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Chaos' Wingadon (Eclipsor)
400/150/3/450(?)
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Nov 16, 2012 3:44 AM #788457
It seems that these units are disproportionately powered based on their population and cost.(im only talking albatross here, because i dont have much experience with chaos.) it takes 3 archidons to kill one albatross. Thats 1050 and 6 population to kill 450, 200 mana and 4 population. Factor in that there are only a few units that can kill them, and you've got a seriously overpowered unit.
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Nov 16, 2012 3:54 AM #788471
btw, does anyone know whether or not chaos giants can hit flying units?
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Nov 16, 2012 4:08 AM #788484
Quote from jerrytt
btw, does anyone know whether or not chaos giants can hit flying units?

Yes they can.
And no, the albowtross is not overpowered.
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Nov 16, 2012 3:29 PM #788742
so long as there arent any opponent's giants, Egiants, magic users and archidons/dead (archidons/deads are ok, unless they have a few speartons to be meat shields and/or outnumber you 3-1(archidon), 2-1 (dead) or more), and castle archers/deads, then albowtross is BEASTTTTT. especially if it has blazing bolts.also they can easily defeat wingadons if they arent too outnumbered.
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Nov 16, 2012 7:49 PM #788916
Albowtross pre buff was almost impossible to get out. But after buff it's a great unit.

I still hate chaos archers (even though albowtross beats wingadons, wingadons accessibility makes them a better support unit.

I voiced my opinion about how I wanted wingadons nerfed but instead of nerfing wingadons, albowtross got buffed(I don't know about this approach but I can live with it;although I would much rather they nerf wingadons instead of buffing albowtross.)
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Nov 16, 2012 7:53 PM #788924
Quote from jerrytt
It seems that these units are disproportionately powered based on their population and cost.(im only talking albatross here, because i dont have much experience with chaos.) it takes 3 archidons to kill one albatross. Thats 1050 and 6 population to kill 450, 200 mana and 4 population. Factor in that there are only a few units that can kill them, and you've got a seriously overpowered unit.


That's what makes them a viable army instead of spearton archer ( if they are proportionally balanced no one will build them since building archers will allow u a bigger army earlier.
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Nov 16, 2012 9:08 PM #788987
One thing.
Flying Crossbowmen are deads essentially.
Wingadons are archers essentially.
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Nov 17, 2012 12:49 AM #789228
I don't think they're overpowered. A giant, castle archers, etc. will destroy them.
They're very good, but still underused.
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Nov 17, 2012 6:30 AM #789466
Well, I'm pretty sure Brock and CrazyJay both know my opinion on this.
THERE SHOULD BE NO AIR UNITS.

Let's take the order air unit for example.
Heavily armored, lots of HP, massive damage, even more against armored(after 400 gold, no other cost). and to top it all off, ONLY HALF OF MY ARMY CAN EVEN HIT IT. Plus, this thing isn't "slow" in comparison to 2/5 of the units.

Now, time for the chaos unit. More HP than a standard Archer. As much damage as a castle archer. As fast as the order's flying unit (actually, might be a bit slower), Good range, and GUESS WHAT! Still, ONLY HALF OF MY ARMY CAN HIT IT.

CRAZYJAY, I know you said this game isn't about equalness, BUT WHY IS THIS CONSIDERED BALANCED IN ANY SENSE OF THE WORD?
Yes I know, deads are the equal/counter to flying crossbowmen, BUT GUESS WHAT! THEY CAN BE ATTACKED BY ANY OTHER UNIT ON THE GROUND OR IN THE AIR. Yes I know, archidons are the equal/counter to wingadons, but once again GUESS WHAT! THEY CAN BE ATTACKED BY ANY OTHER UNIT ON THE GROUND OR IN THE AIR AND THEY HAVE TERRIBLE HEALTH.
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Nov 17, 2012 6:45 AM #789479
Hey, Crazy Jay added flying units is to make the game more good to play, I like the flying units anyway. Flying units is more expensive than ranged units, and so this is balance to me that flying units is more better than ranged units.
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Nov 17, 2012 9:10 PM #790173
I love them!!! They just fly there and pour bombs over the enemies' heads. Wow, I love the way they nuke!!
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Nov 17, 2012 9:17 PM #790179
Albowtross are actually pretty good but rarely used.. (thank god) with the upgrades and 5 of them they can be rather deadly. For one, all of the units (except for giant,castle archer, archer, and itself) can't attack them. Plus the combo with a giant and 5 Albowtross is sooo amazing if you're trying to take the down the statue early.
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Nov 17, 2012 11:56 PM #790291
my opinion is in order for there to be a air unit u need a unit dedicated for anti-air(air to air only or ground to air only).
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Nov 18, 2012 12:18 AM #790301
Quote from RUMMAKER
my opinion is in order for there to be a air unit u need a unit dedicated for anti-air(air to air only or ground to air only).


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