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Rage Nerf-Debate!

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Dec 18, 2012 10:46 AM #821457
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Yep, just focus your swords on ONE crawler, they will be scared and run away and come back after long time (have to heal fully)


smarter people will know teh ad vantage they have and just keep attacking untill it kill teh swordwrath
(i almost never rush so i idk. just a thought of the mind
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Dec 18, 2012 5:02 PM #821668
actually 2 swords does beat 2 crawlers, but the problem is u can't attack the crawlers because then ur mining goes to shit. So u need 3 swords before u can attempt to take middle against 2 crawlers(one at base and 2 to take centre).
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Dec 18, 2012 5:10 PM #821675
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actually 2 swords does beat 2 crawlers, but the problem is u can't attack the crawlers because then ur mining goes to shit. So u need 3 swords before u can attempt to take middle against 2 crawlers(one at base and 2 to take centre).


wont be a prob with castle archer
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Dec 18, 2012 5:20 PM #821681
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wont be a prob with castle archer


Castle archer = u lose, order vs chaos or order vs order
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Dec 18, 2012 5:30 PM #821687
i always use them on my starting strategy and if not encountered with giant massers,i almost always win
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Dec 19, 2012 12:24 AM #822000
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i always use them on my starting strategy and if not encountered with giant massers,i almost always win


What calibre of player are you playing? It won't work against a top 20 player.
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Dec 19, 2012 12:58 AM #822036
this is gona be really embarrassing but it's possible to lose to 1700s who go castle archers >_>.

lag is a factor but even if it wasn't lagging i still have trouble with some of them :P mainly cuz im used to playing the meta at the higher level xD.

lots of my strategies were also derived from lower rating players. just i can control and macro better then them. so im gona listen to aimen.

what do u do after getting a castle archer? whats ur game plan.
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Dec 19, 2012 2:45 AM #822121
We need more ways to deal with what chaos throws at us -_-
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Dec 19, 2012 2:51 AM #822124
we really went off topic here it went from rage nerf debate to me complaining about chaos xD
anyways, i would rather u guys change it to 0-150 instead of 100-50, and lower the research time a tad because with it costing 100 it will be easier to scout and predict as u need at least 2-3 miners on pray if u want to rush this ability, but then u need to nerf chaos a bit as well because this change really upset the order vs chaos balance (one less sword almost equals to chaos having 2 more crawlers)
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Dec 19, 2012 3:15 AM #822148
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What calibre of player are you playing? It won't work against a top 20 player.


i dont always get paired with rating higher than me.Dont know why

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this is gona be really embarrassing but it's possible to lose to 1700s who go castle archers >_>.

lag is a factor but even if it wasn't lagging i still have trouble with some of them :P mainly cuz im used to playing the meta at the higher level xD.

lots of my strategies were also derived from lower rating players. just i can control and macro better then them. so im gona listen to aimen.

what do u do after getting a castle archer? whats ur game plan.


well, because castle archer repels 1-3 swordwrath, swordwrath & archer, 1-3 crawlers i use them.(if he rushes with spearton or ghost spearton, ill make walls)
Anyway, after I research castle archer, I go for miners. once I have 11 miners (8 mining 3 praying), I start making allbowtross. If enough money, ill research blazing bolts.then go to the centre to take tower. There are always some army there.if have archer, target that first.If no kill.If there are albowtross,kill it (first strike advantage(if you get it ). If there are 3 archer/2 albowtross, retreat.make another and a spearton. with 3 albowtrosses and 2 spearton. go back to centre. if there are stronger army (giants) make more spearton and albowtross with a magikill.research both poison and electric wall. by this time i have 7 spearton, 5 albowtross, 1 magikill all full upgraded except for spearton.if there are more space in pop, choose to make spearton or giants
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Dec 19, 2012 5:04 AM #822225
Hey guys sorry I took so long to see this post busy with release of Stick War 2 -

after thinking on this for a while, there are valid points on both sides however I think the issue with Rage from the start was more so that rage itself was a bit IMBA, not so much the price of it. The ability to rage run back to your base after taking tons of damage it way to strong and the rage itself seams to be a bit too fast and last a bit too long. I think what I will do next patch, is put the old price back, however nerf the rage itself slightly.
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Dec 19, 2012 5:28 AM #822243
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Hey guys sorry I took so long to see this post busy with release of Stick War 2 -

after thinking on this for a while, there are valid points on both sides however I think the issue with Rage from the start was more so that rage itself was a bit IMBA, not so much the price of it. The ability to rage run back to your base after taking tons of damage it way to strong and the rage itself seams to be a bit too fast and last a bit too long. I think what I will do next patch, is put the old price back, however nerf the rage itself slightly.

You know...the idea of actually suggesting a nerf for rage instead of change the prices....somehow never crossed my mind.......
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Dec 19, 2012 7:48 AM #822302
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Hey guys sorry I took so long to see this post busy with release of Stick War 2 -

after thinking on this for a while, there are valid points on both sides however I think the issue with Rage from the start was more so that rage itself was a bit IMBA, not so much the price of it. The ability to rage run back to your base after taking tons of damage it way to strong and the rage itself seams to be a bit too fast and last a bit too long. I think what I will do next patch, is put the old price back, however nerf the rage itself slightly.


... GENIUS !! how did I not think of that xD
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Dec 19, 2012 5:13 PM #822580
Great. Now i actually have to incorporate rage as a viable strategy. And come up with counter strat.

hate/love it.
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Dec 19, 2012 7:57 PM #822655
CrazyJay's suggestion would work fine, considering there was never a problem with rage in the first place :-)
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