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Abilities and units Chaos should have had...

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Dec 27, 2012 2:52 AM #830580
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No, these were well thought-out ideas. Idea 1 is not overpowered. It would make Chaos and Order more evened out.

Idea 2 would not be overpowered if the demon sent out by the Marrowkai could not possess certain units, like the giant for example.

Idea 3 would make the two empires even. The hellhounds vs Swordwrath would be an even fight. Tougher Order units would be able to defeat them easily.

Idea 4 would not be overpowered if the dragons were small and given a small amount of health. For instance, 1 hit from a giant could kill it, instead of 2 like it would be for the Allbowtross. That is why I said their health would need to be set accordingly so they were not too powerful.

Obviously, you didn't think twice about your incorrect statement.


I would advise you to look at some of the videos of chaos vs order first if you are having trouble using Chaos. For one, crawlers are extremely powerful if you know how to use them.
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Dec 27, 2012 3:43 AM #830636
:) yep, except against castle archers (order) unless you have a meat shield, right?
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Dec 27, 2012 4:46 AM #830691
uhm, my mates can use chaos much better than u
all of your idea are op
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Dec 27, 2012 5:24 AM #830718
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uhm, my mates can use chaos much better than u
all of your idea are op


Not op, but too op. Op until they could wipe out the battlefield.
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Dec 27, 2012 2:36 PM #831054
Your ideas are OOOPPPP!!!

2 crawlers can kite a swordwrath!!!!! :(
2 crawlers can kite 1000000000000 swordwraths!!!!! D:
So, crawlers are STRONG enough

Medusa cannot be killed by one ninja with stealth level 2 in the cure idea
Reaper is already powerful.... Demon is really... GOD
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Dec 27, 2012 5:55 PM #831231
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Idea 4 would not be overpowered if the dragons were small and given a small amount of health. For instance, 1 hit from a giant could kill it, instead of 2 like it would be for the Allbowtross. That is why I said their health would need to be set accordingly so they were not too powerful.

Obviously, you didn't think twice about your incorrect statement.


By the time you get a giant, all your ground troops would be dead!
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Dec 27, 2012 5:59 PM #831233
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uhm, my mates can use chaos much better than u
all of your idea are op



How do I use Chaos properly then? No matter what strategy I tried, it got me nowhere when playing against Order.

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By the time you get a giant, all your ground troops would be dead!


Hmm, I could rethink this idea, maybe it would need to cost twice as much as the Eclipsor does. And, since it would be weaker, Archidons could easily save the ground troops by killing them with arrows, since they would have low health to prevent them from being too strong. A couple of arrows and they would be dead. Also, I was not trying to say that only giants could kill it... I was trying to make a comparison of how much easier they could die. Without archidons or castle archers, the ground troops would be screwed if a swarm of dragons came, but with Archidons and castle archers, the dragons would be screwed.

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Medusa cannot be killed by one ninja with stealth level 2 in the cure idea
Reaper is already powerful.... Demon is really... GOD


That would depend on the types of units the demons could possess. The giants, Magikill, and Merics would be immune. Also, the health of the possessed unit would drop over time, maybe if it was a short amount of time so it died quickly, it wouldn't be too op. This ability would also need to require a high cost to use, so it could not be used much and only one unit at a time could be possessed.
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Dec 27, 2012 6:05 PM #831235
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How do I use Chaos properly then? No matter what strategy I tried, it got me nowhere when playing against Order.



Hmm, I could rethink this idea, maybe it would need to cost twice as much as the Eclipsor does. And, since it would be weaker, Archidons could easily save the ground troops by killing them with arrows, since they would have low health to prevent them from being too strong. A couple of arrows and they would be dead.


Chaos is actually far more powerful than Order. You just have to use it properly. And, Chaos is more for pros because its hard to use. For how to use Chaos effectively, consult (or become his fan lol ) CaptainCorps2.
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Dec 27, 2012 7:33 PM #831367
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Bullshit.



How is it bullshit? If a crawler can faster than a swordwrath, then it can outrun a million swordwraths. But if it uses rage…
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Dec 27, 2012 7:46 PM #831380
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How could 2 crawlers possibly take on 1,000,000,000,000? The person I replied to said 2 crawlers could do that, but that is not even possible. It's not even possible to get that many Swordwraths.


I didn't say take on. I said kite.
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Dec 27, 2012 7:46 PM #831381
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How is it bullshit? If a crawler can faster than a swordwrath, then it can outrun a million swordwraths. But if it uses rage…


I must have read what Azxc said incorrectly and I got confused.

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I didn't say take on. I said kite.


You were also supposed to ignore that, because I realized I was confused, but it took me too long to delete the post.
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Dec 27, 2012 7:54 PM #831383
Shouldn't Chaos be more powerful? Or are members paying for nothing?
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Dec 27, 2012 7:57 PM #831386
They pay for access to Chaos
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Dec 27, 2012 8:06 PM #831392
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Shouldn't Chaos be more powerful? Or are members paying for nothing?


Actually, they are. Plenty of threads in this forum go into the Cgaos vs Order topic
However the game makers did say they didn't believe in getting advantages for money.
Perhaps they aren't seeing it as we are, or their time is thin.
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Dec 27, 2012 8:07 PM #831395
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Shouldn't Chaos be more powerful? Or are members paying for nothing?


According to what some have said, Chaos is actually extremely powerful as it is, but only if used by experts. If used by people that are new to using Chaos, it is terribly weak. The ideas I had were actually to make Chaos easier to use for people that are more inexperienced at using Chaos. If there were hellhounds and they cost the same amount as swordwrath, it would be more even that way. Obviously it would be op if used by an expert, but it would not be if used by inexperienced players.

The same goes for most of the ideas I had. They all would be op if used by experts, but they would not be if used by inexperienced players. It did actually feel like paying for Chaos was a waste of money, because I couldn't ever win playing as Chaos, but when I would go play as Order, I would win quite often.

However, I still do not see how the small dragons could be op though. Sure they send fire from above, but if their health was exactly half of what it is for Eclipsors and their cost was twice the amount of Eclipsors, they would die fairly easily, while still being able to kill the weaker units of the enemy's army. Plus, fighting against dragons when playing as Order would really be fun. They would also seem more "Chaos-like" than people with bat wings shooting arrows.
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