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Sorry for such an obnoxious title post. But I hope this has captured your attention and that you are now reading this.

Giant Spamming in regards to this new patch:

The only complaints I've been seeing are that there seems to be more giant spammers. I shall address this:

1. Before this patch each miner would bring in 150 gold each time, thus when two miners get back you get 300 gold. With the more miners u have the amount of gold u get is more. This is why before this patch you mightve seen spearton rushing more. 3 miners, 450 gold. Easy.

2. Refer to point one. But this also means that giant spamming was more common BEFORE this patch because you would get gold in bulk. Giant 1500 gold. 10 miners return.

3. The rate of income is the same as stated by Brock.

4. SO WHY DOES IT SEEM LIKE THERES MORE GIANT SPAMMERS?

5.Here is why: Because you guys are getting pressured WAY FASTER than before in the early game. The rate at which you can make swordraths and archers have increased dramatically. People who take advantage of this probably pressure you into hiding in your base while they hold tower. To put it simply, you've already lost the game, and earlier too.

6. Refer to point 5. Usually when I do that, the other player gets castle archers and walls. If I continue to make smaller units, speartons, archidons, archers, swords, mage, etc. The splash damage taken from the castle archers is too much and would drag the game on indefinetly. So... I make giants. I giant spam for a quicker victory.

7. Note what I said in point 5. "You've already lost the game, and earlier too" You have lost to a giant spammer not because of the giants, but because you lost in the early stages of the game. BEFORE THERE WERE ANY GIANTS ON THE FIELD. THE EARLIER YOU TURTLE UP. THE EARLIER THE OPPONENT STARTS MAKING GIANTS TO BREAK YOUR CASTLE ARCHER+ARMY DEFENDING.

Giant spamming in general... and how to defeat it so you guys can all shut up and so I can have more of a challenge:

1. As stated above, it is not the the giant spamming that wins the game, it's the fact you allowed him to giant spam and you've allowed him to do that because you lost early game.

2. Something you guys should all notice about losing to a giant spammer. The fact you lost everything else before the giants. (This is probably 90% of the time)

• You probably did not have the tower
  
• You probably did not have the scouting information to see what your opponent was making
  
• Your opponent knew exactly what you were doing and if he was in a safe enough position to spend 1500 gold on a giant and have to wait for it to finish completing and then move it all the way across the field
  
• The point I am making above is that with the production of the first giant, the giant spammer is very vulnerable.
  

3. As stated above in point number 2. We can all agree making a giant is costly and takes a long time and its slow. If you are against making giants then that means you are able to make ANY OTHER UNIT faster AND MOVE THEM TO THE TOWER faster before the first giant arrives. That also means you shud be able to mass units faster.

4. In regards to point number 3, if you still don't have the tower, you're doing it wrong and that's why you're losing.

5. One giant on its own is very weak. I have not tested but it takes A LOT of rocks to kill a spearton. A few speartons or even a mass of swordraths+rage can easily take down that one giant your opponent will probably have out.

6. Your opponent will retreat and try and save the one giant and possibly wait for his second giant to finish (IF he's a giant spammer). His one giant is slow, chase him down. Also here's another possibilty. Harass his miners while the giant is trying to run back to base.

7. If you've done everything correctly so far, you have ghost/tower and your opponent is on the defensive. Position your army right outside of his base where your ranged units can easily take out the 2nd row of gold miners. This will slow down your opponents gold immensly. Slow down giant production, force him to make other units to defend. If he doesnt make other units, Keep pressuring him. 2-3giants does not do that much damage against a mass of speartons,swords,archers, whatever you decided to make.

8. If your opponent gets castle archer and has giants defending, well, heres the dilema, the only way to break a turtler is to giant spam yourself. Start sacrficing a few troops and get giants yourself. Remeber, you have ghost tower AND your opponent shudnt be able to mine from his 2nd row of gold. Get giants/clerics yourself.

9. Win the game.

10.Oh no! I resorted to giant spamming to win D; This breaks all my personal morals and ethics. I can't do this! I have wronged myself.

11.Correction: You won and fought back the tower with your superb skill of controling archidons/ninjas/clerics/swords/mage/speartons/etc. You forced your opponent into turtling at his base. You killed his gold production. You only spammed giants because your opponent is stubborn enough to not surrender even though he has obviously lost the game.

Sidenote in reference to point 11:

Please don't be that asshole where you get castle archer level 3 and miner walls and an army to try and defend in the hopes of you coming back and winning. You won't. So just surrender. As much fun as it is watching my army of giants crushing your pitiful last stand and you complaining of giant massing and how I have no skill, and calling me derogatory names. It gets kinda old when the past 20 players I defeated did the same thing.

That is all for now. NOW SHUT THE F*** UP ABOUT GIANT SPAMMING.

*same tactic can be used for choas... I think. Idk I don't play choas, you guys are on your own 8D.
*Also do not argue with me cause I am/was rank 1 so I know everything there is to know and everything you say that counters my argument is wrong. Jk, please feel free to ask any questions.