What the f*ck with the new update?
I swear this is totally unbalanced. I played 4 games, In all the games I controlled the tower right away, kept harassing the enemy, I was super fast as I'm always are, and suddenly the enemy starts massing giants like ****, I controlled the center, struggling to make more speartons/archers and suddenly 4 giants appear out of nowhere! WHAT THE HELL are giants f*cking free now? I was going to use at least 5 dollars in the game but I won't play anymore until the game is balanced again.

It is balanced. You just aren't doing it right. Once you get the center get tower spawn right away (if you have more than 800 gold and 250 mana). It scouts out the area and puts pressure on the enemy. They spend money on walls (slowing down giant production) and their miners might die.

Also, plain spearton archer army sucks. An army I sometimes use that owns is the following:

2 giants (meatshields)
6 speartons (Either attacking enemy magikill, merics or giants in that order)
12 swordwrath (use rage to attack enemy giants)
6-9 archers (using fire arrows)
3-6 albowtrosses (with blazing bolts)
1 Magikill (to use spells to poison giants and destroy walls of enemies)

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What the f*ck with the new update?
I swear this is totally unbalanced. I played 4 games, In all the games I controlled the tower right away, kept harassing the enemy, I was super fast as I'm always are, and suddenly the enemy starts massing giants like ****, I controlled the center, struggling to make more speartons/archers and suddenly 4 giants appear out of nowhere! WHAT THE HELL are giants f*cking free now? I was going to use at least 5 dollars in the game but I won't play anymore until the game is balanced again.

All my opponents just hide their giants in the castle o_O

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All my opponents just hide their giants in the castle o_O

Hiding in the castle is something I have seen. I once faced a guy who unleashed 15 or so speartons from his castle once I destroyed one of his miner walls. I had about 10 swordwrath, 5 speartons, 5 archers and 2 albows. He targetted my archers first like a smart guy. My albows died due to castle archers because they are slow to get out.

Tower Spawn, if the opponent has no miner walls, can make an excellent scout too. It can see inside the castle if it survives long enough.

You can't see into the castle if they have walls.

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You can't see into the castle if they have walls.

Walls are useful for more than 1 thing :D

Also, cool, you have 800 posts now.

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Walls are useful for more than 1 thing :D

Also, cool, you have 800 posts now.

And 500 of them are as useless as this post is :p

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What the f*ck with the new update?
I swear this is totally unbalanced. I played 4 games, In all the games I controlled the tower right away, kept harassing the enemy, I was super fast as I'm always are, and suddenly the enemy starts massing giants like ****, I controlled the center, struggling to make more speartons/archers and suddenly 4 giants appear out of nowhere! WHAT THE HELL are giants f*cking free now? I was going to use at least 5 dollars in the game but I won't play anymore until the game is balanced again.

I hope youve at least looked at the thread about anti giant massing before you complained.

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I hope youve at least looked at the thread about anti giant massing before you complained.

His post completely throws Dae's thread out the window. Dae's thread says to apply pressure. He was. Dae's thread said to keep the tower. He did. Guess what! The enemy still giant massed.

I Read ALL the threads! IM ALWAYS BUYING THE GHOST FROM THE CENTER! I always do. I always try to make a decent pressure army, but SUDDENLY 4 GIANTS APPEAR OUT OF NOWHERE!!! I mean something's really f*cked up here! I had 130 victories/60 defeats (half of the losses are lag defeats) And when I stop playing for 2 weeks for xmas Suddenly I can't win ANY GAME i mean I always apply pressure, I always buy the ghost, always harass, I ALWAYS SCOUT!!!! This IS NOT BALANCED. YES I BUY MANY MINERS I ALWAYS MAX MY ECONOMY FAST. This is f*cked up.

First off, stop whining like a little bitch.

Speartons and archidons are not enough. You'll need LOTS of swordwrath with rage or a magikill with poison.If they don't a wall,then try the spearton surprise strategy where you focus all your units on the tower. But you can't really ask me because I play chaos more than I play order and I deal better with rushers than massers.

The reason why you lost is becasue he out-teched you. Here read this one:

http://forums.stickpage.com/showthread.php?49448-The-True-Potential-of-Stick-Wars-And-Micro-Macro-Management-(Replay-included)

The main point being, once both players economy are high enough, lower tiered units(such as archers/speartons/etc.) become less viable. You were spending to much money on your archers. Sure you may have been harassing his economy but obviously the damage was not enough to stop his giants.

Something important for you to realize:

1.Archer is 350g.
2.4archers is 1400g.
3.that is 100g short of a giant.
4.I am willing to bet you had more than 4 archers in the very late game.
5.Mid-to late game means teching to higher tiered units, not wasting gold on lower tiered units.

If you're telling me he had the gold income and the army to be able to hide 3-4 giants in his base WITHOUT using them to defend your "harass" your harass was obviously nothing but a small nusiance to him(and your harass sucked, to put it simply).

Also. This game was probably in the very very very late stages seeing as how he had the time to make that many giants. And you're telling me you didn't even bother to tech to giants yourself? What were you spending your better economy(opponent should not have been able to mine 2nd row gold succesfully+you have tower) on? A bunch of low tech units? That is why you lost.

Plus seeing as how you just got back, you're really rusty and you're probably still adapting to the patch. :)

daemon you just spoke what you told me you would keep a secret :P

Not really... I kinda already posted that in the forums under the link I posted: http://forums.stickpage.com/showthread.php?49448-The-True-Potential-of-Stick-Wars-And-Micro-Macro-Management-(Replay-included)

I was just being more specific for Reaper Rev seeing as how pissed of he was. :)