I'm not too sure about the current EvC balance, but last I heard EvC was supposed to be in the chaos user's favor.

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I'm not too sure about the current EvC balance, but last I heard EvC was supposed to be in the chaos user's favor.

unless you mass charrogs and trees really early which is what I'm curious about

Haven't personaly pulled off the charrog mass against chaos thanks to bombs

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Haven't personaly pulled off the charrog mass against chaos thanks to bombs

Charrog mass vs chaos on short maps is hell for chaos. Just ask Wyz *Wink* *Wink*

CHARROG ALL THE THINGS.

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Hash, anything for chaos on short maps is hell. I can't see how trees and charrogs are an issue outside DM.

you make a bunch of them and rush their statue/eco before they have a proper army

Never heard of that before. In the time it takes to create a lethal amount of charrogs or trees, wouldn't the chaos user have a sufficient amount of wings and turrets?

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Never heard of that before. In the time it takes to create a lethal amount of charrogs or trees, wouldn't the chaos user have a sufficient amount of wings and turrets?

tower spawn helps quite a bit, anyways this is all theory which is why I was asking for a replay

I used to use GoTreesOrGoHome even after latest update, and yeah you can still treature rushdown on desert and smaller maps. Larger maps require a smarter build against chaos. Still can be hell for Order though, but walling with magikill/shadowrath negates any elemental build period.

Order can turtle their way out of tree mass/charog heavy builds.

Chaos can't really do much about this since they're an aggressive empire. So I just negate the player from letting him build up. Easy peazy

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Order can turtle their way out of tree mass/charog heavy builds.

Chaos can't really do much about this since they're an aggressive empire. So I just negate the player from letting him build up. Easy peazy

Until you get baited hard enough.

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I used to use GoTreesOrGoHome even after latest update, and yeah you can still treature rushdown on desert and smaller maps. Larger maps require a smarter build against chaos. Still can be hell for Order though, but walling with magikill/shadowrath negates any elemental build period.

Replays? Chaos could just bomb pressure to stop tree mass, and easily wing mass afterwards. It's always an uphill battle for chaos on short maps against order or elementals anyway. You can easily get one mage as order and wipe out all the trees. Same goes with charrogs.

You'd have to get your Mage near the trees to do that. If Order can reach Ele's trees it's doing something wrong.

Well, the scorpions aren't that tough. Get archers to shoot down scorpions and spears to tank any ranged damage. Merics to heal said damage with aoe blasts from mage. Once that wave of scorpions are gone the mage will have a full 11 seconds to slowly walk toward the trees.