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We don't need clan functions (although they would be nice) to have clans. Never said that you do not need clan functions to have clans. I said that they will not last for a long time without some sort of official clan-feature for SE.

What we need is activity. It's not dying because it's a 1v1 game. I didn't said clans are dying due to it being a 1v1 game. That statement goes with how difficult it will be to add clan-features to a 1v1 game like this. I do agree with your statement that you need activity for a successful clan. (Which will be kind of difficult to obtain since the game is only in beta.) But it can only go so long if there is no incentive for the clan members in SE. Why would they participate in clan-events if they do not gain anything in the game other than pride?

I could make a list of games that hold teams and clans and can only support 2 players against each other. Compare that list to all the MMORPG games (Or even shooter games.) out there with clan-like or team-like features. And again, I did not say it is not impossible to have clans in 1v1 based games. And again, we're talking about SE, not another game.

By the way, Team Zenith isn't going anywhere, so watch out. :)
I will. 0.o

In bold ^

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You contradicted yourself a few times and have missed completely what I'm getting at. I'm not here to argue how there should or shouldn't be clans. I'm here saying that if you want them, leaders need to do something. That's all. I'm not going to debate with you.

But I love debates :D

Yup.
Zenith and TGC seem pretty solid clans. But the others, less so. Maybe the leaders need to consider merging into just 1 or 2 much larger clans so we'd have 3 or 4 solid, sizable, active clans...

Thats smart! DD is kinda, small clan...

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Thats smart! DD is kinda, small clan...

Its WyzDM's suggestion in the OP. Yes, it's smart :)

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I'm sick of retiring threads, and if you're reading this I'm sure you are too. We know who's gone. But that's because they underestimated the work that would be required of leading.

Excuse me, but I was well aware of the work required for leading. I've done what I've wanted with clans and I helped shape a VERY LARGE CHUNK of clan life today, I will not tolerate hearing that I underestimated the job, cause I most certainly didn't, I overcame that job and accomplished what needed to be done. SO I would suggest not directing this on the retired/retiring, for we retired for other reasons, not because of the underestimation of leading clans.

And by the way, there should be another chat on the Zenith and Grand Council Sites so I can freely have conversation with you guys without filling in an application.

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Excuse me, but I was well aware of the work required for leading. I've done what I've wanted with clans and I helped shape a VERY LARGE CHUNK of clan life today, I will not tolerate hearing that I underestimated the job, cause I most certainly didn't, I overcame that job and accomplished what needed to be done. SO I would suggest not directing this on the retired/retiring, for we retired for other reasons, not because of the underestimation of leading clans.

It's not just you, but you're right about starting this whole thing up. But if the job was easy, how many would still be leading? I will apologize, as I know you did not underestimate it, and you did contributed more than I have to my own clan. My point was it's difficult and that's why it's happening.

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And by the way, there should be another chat on the Zenith and Grand Council Sites so I can freely have conversation with you guys without filling in an application.

All you have to do is register to the site (means have an Enjin account) to join our chat, but it's right now temporarily unavailable. You're more than welcome to join us there. We handle our applications through the forums, which I have more control of and create a better system all in all.

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It's not just you, but you're right about starting this whole thing up. But if the job was easy, how many would still be leading? I will apologize, as I know you did not underestimate it, and you did contributed more than I have to my own clan. My point was it's difficult and that's why it's happening.



All you have to do is register to the site (means have an Enjin account) to join our chat, but it's right now temporarily unavailable. You're more than welcome to join us there. We handle our applications through the forums, which I have more control of and create a better system all in all.

Alright I understand, sorry to be a burden and fight back like that, I understand you meant no offense, just over thinking right now XD.

Alright I'll register and all eventually, I'm not unretiring, if I unretire, it's to reclaim my leadership for SOS.

I'd like to chat with you guys again, catch up, see how Zenith is.

By the way, Kannagi would like Zenith and SOS to be allies, like Daemonic promised to happen, XD

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Alright I understand, sorry to be a burden and fight back like that, I understand you meant no offense, just over thinking right now XD.

Alright I'll register and all eventually, I'm not unretiring, if I unretire, it's to reclaim my leadership for SOS.

I'd like to chat with you guys again, catch up, see how Zenith is.

By the way, Kannagi would like Zenith and SOS to be allies, like Daemonic promised to happen, XD

It was my mistake to word things as they were, and perhaps I was the one that came out too aggressively. And Kannagi is more then welcome to register and post in my clan forums (I have a whole section for that. When he does so I tag him, and he has more forum access with a sweet tag that states he's a clan leader.

You would get like a legend tag or something. Just a little incentive.

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You would get like a legend tag or something.

Ohhh, shiney...

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You would get like a legend tag or something. Just a little incentive.

I got a pink and sparkly name with Feminine tag XD

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I got a pink and sparkly name with Feminine tag XD

I wonder why though?

Quote from WyzDM

It was my mistake to word things as they were, and perhaps I was the one that came out too aggressively. And Kannagi is more then welcome to register and post in my clan forums (I have a whole section for that. When he does so I tag him, and he has more forum access with a sweet tag that states he's a clan leader.

You would get like a legend tag or something. Just a little incentive.

I'm very flattered with the honor.

And you'll need to see Kannagi on the new SOS site (NSSCW site :p). Hopefully you can talk to him about registering, cause I told him to ally with you guys.