Name and shame the exploiters

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Feb 25, 2013 8:29 PM #896961
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I don't understand a word you're saying. I don't even play Minecraft, so you probably got the wrong guy. And anyhow, there are no cases of people using exploits different then the pause game one. I'm the only one that comes up and talks and you're going to beat me up for that ? Again, the hack is NOT sold, NOWHONE has access to the hack and it isn't even exploited. Instead of attacking me you should attack all the other exploiters that made it into the highscores and that aren't even banned. Also, i'm not a damn professional. All I want is people to stop accusing me of hacking.

You're not very bright, so I'll go easy on you.
If you were, then you would notice around the 2:10 mark, you can hear the unmistakable explosion of a creeper.
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or my professional editing ?

So much for that theory.

We as players/tester can't do anything about that but report them, like the people in this thread have done to them and to you.

As I said at the start, you're not very bright. You've made SEVERAL videos with the word "hack" in it, as well as proof of that hack, and you want to not be called a hacker? Please, stay in school. You're sure as hell going to need it.
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Feb 25, 2013 8:42 PM #896969
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You're not very bright, so I'll go easy on you.
If you were, then you would notice around the 2:10 mark, you can hear the unmistakable explosion of a creeper.

So much for that theory.

We as players/tester can't do anything about that but report them, like the people in this thread have done to them and to you.

As I said at the start, you're not very bright. You've made SEVERAL videos with the word "hack" in it, as well as proof of that hack, and you want to not be called a hacker? Please, stay in school. You're sure as hell going to need it.


Lol, this is getting better and better. You really play too much minecraft buddy, how about you try listening to some music ? The sound comes from the Guns 'N Roses Song "Knocking on Heaven's Door", they just added a gun sound so it sounds realistic. But then again, I love how Uberman calls me a motherfucker and incapable moderators are wandering around on the forums. Instead of calling other people idiots you should try learning stuff, bud.
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Feb 25, 2013 9:30 PM #897009
JohnsonMichaels, no matter how hard you try, you're not going to win. You called it a hack in your video. Congratulations.


And Tec nice try on the "creeper." I thought this would be music you'd listen to after making fun of mine, lol.

Moving on, this argument is going no where. Lets quit feeding the troll and move get down to the real core of the issue. We have his user, we have his own publicly visible documentation on his hacks, there's nothing else we can until the developers come up with some sorta term allowing them to ban accounts performing such feats.
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Feb 25, 2013 9:39 PM #897020
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JohnsonMichaels, no matter how hard you try, you're not going to win. You called it a hack in your video. Congratulations.


And Tec nice try on the "creeper." I thought this would be music you'd listen to after making fun of mine, lol.

Moving on, this argument is going no where. Lets quit feeding the troll and move get down to the real core of the issue. We have his user, we have his own publicly visible documentation on his hacks, there's nothing else we can until the developers come up with some sorta term allowing them to ban accounts performing such feats.


There's nothing to win, and don't call me a damn Troll. However, you're right about this going nowhere. I don't think anything I will say will change anything. I just want to make it clear I didn't make profit selling hacks.
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Feb 25, 2013 9:42 PM #897024
My mistake.
It's been a long time since I've heard knocking on heavens door and after going through my music old music, it never had that sound in it.
And Wyz, I do :p
But it's been a long time.
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Feb 26, 2013 3:19 AM #897386
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Uberman,
Wow, just wow. This is completely ridiculous, you are accusing me of exploiting a hack & using it for personal gain, and your only proof is a poor, fake youtube video that I uploaded myself.


Welcome to the forum, JM.
But I am not using fake evidence, you posted the video, you called it a hack, you clearly and explicitly asked for a donation, proving your intent to make personal gain.

Do you really think it's even possible to do that ? No, not anymore at least.

Oh so your claiming it wasnt a real hack, so your defence is that you want to sell a fake hack, that means you are admitting to being a liar and a cheat, deliberatly ripping people off to sell them a hack which you claim to know doesnt work. That may seem like a solid defence to you buddy, but if you admit to being a liar and a cheat, then why would we believe a self-confessed liar that the hack is not real?

Epic fail.

But that really isn't the point; you're inventing fake evidence & insulting me on the forums without even letting me have my opinion.
No I am not stopping you having your opinion (here you are stating your opinion). I am not using fake evidence (the video is posted and thats real evidence even if it were a fake video). I am not inventing it (you admit yourself to having posted it).
But your right on one thing, which is good as your demonstrably wrong on all the points of importance; I am insulting you, and I have no regrets at having done so - your a self confessed liar and cheat, looking to exploit others for personal gain (either by selling a fake hack OR selling a genuine hack)- damn right I will insult you.

Also, you didn't even finish your sentence...That's so against ? What are you even talking about ? If you're talking about the Terms & Conditions of Stick Empires, I don't see how it goes against it. The video was uploaded before the Terms were even added into the game, and it's still just a youtube video.


Its against what's moral and right, for a start. You have come across the concept I hope?
Its wrong to cheat in a game by using a hack to gain unfair advantage, its wrong to provide a hack to others specifically to help them gain an unfair advantage, and its wrong to sell it even if (as you claim) it doesnt work as its wrong to seek personal financial gain by ripping people off selling a hack you know doesnt work.

You cant be expected to be taken seriously if you say 'whats wrong with offering for sale a hack?'


I mean, what if it was a private server, or my professional editing ?

You dismissed this in a later post, saying your not a pro editor, and Tec dismissed the private server argument - so more hot air from you there.


You have no proof, don't accuse people like that. I hope these misunderstandings have been cleared.
Oh, and by the way, my name is Johnson Michaels, not Jason Michaels.
Have a good day.


I dont claim to offer proof (check the facts; what I actually said was 'pretty easy to search for conclusive evidence of hacking'). I know the difference between proof and evidence, while you appear not to do so. While this is not proof, and I have not claimed it is, it is what we could call 'damning evidence.' Even a child could easily see through your pathetic excuses and smoke screen of lies.

May I suggest another form of defence, which may carry a little more weight?
Its a strange concept for you, no doubt. Try; being honest, offering an apology, a promise not to do the same with this and other games, and withdrawing your hacks.
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Feb 26, 2013 3:29 AM #897396
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Ok people are starting to debate, so I want to have my word ! I am Datol and I didn't exploit this is a fake.


Hi Datol.
What exactly do you mean by 'its a fake'

Do you mean its not a genuine screenshot, that I faked it to frame you?
Do you mean you didnt pause the game after saying 'bye'?
Do you mean the chat is not real, that you didnt say the things I showed?
Do you mean that I didnt really win the game?

Or do you mean the screen shots and chat are ligit, and you did pause it, but you paused it for a toilet break and I shouldnt have un-paused it to get a cheap win?

AS I said, what exactly do you mean ...
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Feb 26, 2013 6:44 AM #897521
Now I'm pissed. There is evidence on it. I already made a list.
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Feb 26, 2013 11:03 AM #897673
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Now I'm pissed. There is evidence on it. I already made a list.


Which post or posts are you pissed off by Aiman?

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There is a button beside Reply with Quote button, it says Multi-Quote this message. It can be used to quote all the quote that is in the quote.


Could you tell me how I should 'multiquote' your post to copy it into my OP?
I cant seem to get it to do it ...

Thanks for your continued patience with the old timer :)
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Feb 26, 2013 11:14 AM #897677
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JohnsonMichaels, no matter how hard you try, you're not going to win. You called it a hack in your video. Congratulations.

Yup, you nailed him there.


Moving on, this argument is going no where. Lets quit feeding the troll and move get down to the real core of the issue. We have his user, we have his own publicly visible documentation on his hacks, there's nothing else we can until the developers come up with some sorta term allowing them to ban accounts performing such feats.


Indeed this is the core issue in this whole thread.
On skimming the user agreement we all accepted recently, I am pretty sure the dev's DO NOW have the power to ban accounts, including payed member accounts, for several things. One of which I think is profiting from the game, one is using third party 'hacks' to change the game.

FAO Tec;
Is there a link to the agreement, so we can see what we have agreed to? Such a link might be useful to point out to certain people exactly what part of the agreement they have broken.
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Feb 26, 2013 8:23 PM #898092
Ugh, this isn't going very far anyways. I'll have to admit it; I modified some of the game's content, but that was before the contract was released (At least I think so) but you guys don't have to worry, the hack is outdated, and nowhone had access to it except me. I also wouldn't really say I sold the hacks because it was considered a Donation, but nowhone bought the crap anyway. I still don't understand why I'm getting all the attention when users like Datol make it into the highscores by exploiting (He sells map hacks for 5 dollars to exploiters by the way) and he doesn't even get anything.
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Feb 26, 2013 8:27 PM #898097
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Ugh, this isn't going very far anyways. I'll have to admit it; I modified some of the game's content, but that was before the contract was released (At least I think so) but you guys don't have to worry, the hack is outdated, and nowhone had access to it except me. I also wouldn't really say I sold the hacks because it was considered a Donation, but nowhone bought the crap anyway. I still don't understand why I'm getting all the attention when users like Datol make it into the highscores by exploiting (He sells map hacks for 5 dollars to exploiters by the way) and he doesn't even get anything.



Lol, I only sold around 10 copies, no big deal.
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Feb 26, 2013 9:32 PM #898138
so pissed off, so many people try to lag freeze, then make you go to home screen, the one i just faced was fandor2013
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Feb 26, 2013 10:35 PM #898197
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Lol, I only sold around 10 copies, no big deal.


That's still 50 dollars...
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Feb 27, 2013 5:21 AM #898587
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Ugh, this isn't going very far anyways. I'll have to admit it; I modified some of the game's content, but that was before the contract was released (At least I think so) but you guys don't have to worry, the hack is outdated, and nowhone had access to it except me. I also wouldn't really say I sold the hacks because it was considered a Donation, but nowhone bought the crap anyway. I still don't understand why I'm getting all the attention when users like Datol make it into the highscores by exploiting (He sells map hacks for 5 dollars to exploiters by the way) and he doesn't even get anything.


Good Job.
Now that you are moving towards a more honest position, you'll find a lot less heat on you.

There are a couple of outstanding points though. You are wrong to say you didnt sell it because the buyer 'made a donation'. They donated (i.e. gave you money) and it was compulsory to do so inorder to get the product, it was not a voluntary donation - meaning if they dont donate, they dont get the goods. Thats a sale.
If you offered the goods freely, asking for an optional voluntary donation, then thats not technically a sale, but its still technically 'personal gain or profit' and not allowed.

If you agree that it was wrong, and agree not to do anything along these lines in the future (rather than trying to suggest it wasnt so bad) then you'll probably find the heat goes away altogether.

Regarding Datol selling the map hack, do you have any supporting evidence, such as a link to where/how he does so?
Well done on getting him to admit to having done so in the chat here in the forum, he's not denying it.

Light and Peace.