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Feb 22, 2013 9:57 PM #892731
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my trio team was also over powered due to the pathetic weaknesses they had, one of jackels weaknesses was he dies instantly if silver weaponry of any type hits him, i failed to notice nobody uses the element silver in their weapons

btw this nightshade character, ive never seen him. yet i hear horrible stories of him

do you have a basic page of him, his abilities, and weaknesses?


His page is gone, but I definitely remember everything about him.

Nightshade's Original Abilities, Weaknesses, and Personality (Click to Show)


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shaq-of-all-trades, This is not a writing chat, so it doesn't matter if I spell right or not.
if your character is "overpowered", you can both find a way to balance it, like a injection that partly disables someones powers.
come on guys, it's about having fun and fantazising, not really based on rules.

and as my signature says, I still have a lot to learn in grammar.


That is just lazy and causes unnecessary complications to your opponent. IT is better to have a balanced wRHG that you can both write about easily.
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Feb 22, 2013 10:00 PM #892735
That is what I call, overpowered
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Feb 22, 2013 10:14 PM #892754
shaq-of-all-trades, This is not a writin
g chat, so it doesn't matter if I spell right or not.
if your character is "overpowered", you can both find a way to balance it, like a injection that partly disables someones powers.
come on guys, it's about having fun and fantazising, not really based on rules.

and as my signature says, I still have a lot to learn in grammar.[/QUOTE

OK, the problem with that is simple. In writing, you need a solid plot/story to each battle that actually makes sense, those with stronger stories tend to get more points in the eyes of the reader. Because of how short most battle are, "story" kind of takes in all writing styles and choreography, from location of the battle to the positions the gladiators are standing in. For example, you'll notice in John Doe versus Kyra, one of my favorite battles, the characters have met before and it was carried over as well as their pasts and their previous interactions. When that was brought together, it made for an interesting and it was coupled with good writing both parts (they were both fantastic stories, so take your pick of which I am talking about) and the narrative was based off their dialogue and their surroundings.

There is a certain level of realism that is required to make both a convincing and interesting story. For example, the first gladiator I deemed to be overpowered was Battlefield. I forget who made him, but it was essentially a gigantic robot that could spawn a whole army of full trained soldiers whose abilities individually matched that of my personal gladiator at the time, Agent Daggerhands. There was no possible way in hell that Daggerhands could have taken down Battlefield, with over a hundred of him fighting back.

The only real way of doing it would be to call in some tactical nuke or plant a bomb or something along those lines. Maybe Daggerhands came across a virus or something. While it may be possible for someone to write it into their story, it restricts what the writer can do immensely because they have to write a forced plot point into a short story, making it heavily unfair on the side who has to breach their character's powers and personality to do so.

Chances are you won't be able to do it.
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Feb 22, 2013 10:18 PM #892758
He doesn't seem so tough, THEN I got to the personality, thats when I said "ok now I know why this character was cancelled"
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Feb 23, 2013 9:48 AM #893444
I dont know if my current character is OP or not. And i just updated the front page of my character. Adding a bit weakness and an element and a mode.
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Feb 23, 2013 8:04 PM #894047
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I dont know if my current character is OP or not. And i just updated the front page of my character. Adding a bit weakness and an element and a mode.


He's not OP, so long as he's got a weakness(es) that lets the opposing writer have a lot of choices for designing his plot.
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Feb 24, 2013 3:29 AM #894536
I couldnt fix Jackel, Hyde, and Peace. so I sent them to the vault.

The new guy is Zeus.
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Feb 24, 2013 3:37 AM #894545
lets be honest, 2 is a great amount here, 3 was going too far

97% of all wRHGs are 1 person

2% was 2 people as a team

and 1% was that single me as a trio
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Feb 24, 2013 3:51 AM #894566
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lets be honest, 2 is a great amount here, 3 was going too far

97% of all wRHGs are 1 person

2% was 2 people as a team

and 1% was that single me as a trio

Not really.
Arvine can be a trio for 20 seconds(with Yin and Yang).
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Feb 24, 2013 3:54 AM #894570
I attempted something like that but lobotomizer and you both said it wasnt enough, here it was.

Team death
if any of the people on this team die, it weakens everybody's abilities, power, and speed. even if Peace revives them they will still have these negative effects

and triss this team is a trio forever, they arent activated in an ability. they are eternally a trio. throughout the entire battle
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Feb 24, 2013 3:58 AM #894577
OK then.
Also do you think my character is a bit OP?
Many people complained to me(secretly) that it's OP.
Does it?
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Feb 24, 2013 4:05 AM #894587
well heres one thing that i find rather odd, stamina is not explained well. how fast is it reduced, is it extremely slow or extremely fast and is it faster depending on the spells he uses (lightning drains stamina faster than fire).
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Feb 24, 2013 4:16 AM #894604
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well heres one thing that i find rather odd, stamina is not explained well. how fast is it reduced, is it extremely slow or extremely fast and is it faster depending on the spells he uses (lightning drains stamina faster than fire).

1.Stamina counts for how much Dragon Merge he can do.
2.Also spells doesn't cost stamina, since it uses inner energy (lolwut, like a chakra/chi)
3.Stamina have a cost, and it's displayed on each Dragon Merge. Check it yourself.
So, is it OP or not?

@Hewitt thanks for the info, but I write it like that so the readers could understand more about Arvine's weakness.
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Feb 24, 2013 7:03 AM #894820
Funny, I was told my character was underpowered the first time I introduced her. A black sheep I am.

I think a major point in creating a wrhg character is to make him or her, not only entertaining to write about, but entertaining for your opponent to write about as well. Having an over powered character just means that your opponent won't like it very much, and indeed, he might just think that a battle like that isn't worth writing about. Naturally, this doesn't just apply to abilities, but also your character's own personality quirks. A cold blooded killer is boring. A cold blooded killer haunted by a tragic past is cliché, but fine. A man forced to kill so that he may salvage his life, and had to throw his morality away to avoid constantly battling against his decisions in prioritising his own life over the many others he has taken is much better, and likely much more appealing to a prospective opponent.

tl;dr Interesting characters are good. Clichéd ones are bad. Generics are the worst.
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Feb 24, 2013 7:16 AM #894828
is my character Zeus overpowered?
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