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Giant massers are chaos' worst nightmare

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Feb 25, 2013 10:31 PM #897084
Tittle says it all.

How DAFUQ do we beat em they make walls and get 3 castles archers.
Then a endless stream of giants pop out and is impossible to beat with 3 castle archers. They go build their army while we wait and lose!!!
So can anybody post replays and or strats to help me?

Thanks :)



(AND I KNOW THAT 1 OF U MASSERS STOLE MY CHEETOS)
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Feb 25, 2013 10:50 PM #897097
I have a strategy for it and it's a thread here. It works a lot for me.
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Feb 25, 2013 10:52 PM #897100
Quote from WheresMyCheetos
Tittle says it all.

How DAFUQ do we beat em they make walls and get 3 castles archers.
Then a endless stream of giants pop out and is impossible to beat with 3 castle archers. They go build their army while we wait and lose!!!
So can anybody post replays and or strats to help me?

Thanks :)



(AND I KNOW THAT 1 OF U MASSERS STOLE MY CHEETOS)


Yeah it's really HARD to beat a giant spammer.I myself am a really good Chaos user but it's really hard to beat them.
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Feb 26, 2013 12:01 AM #897155
I don't have chaos, but just do it the order way. Rush rush rush
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Feb 26, 2013 12:04 AM #897160
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I don't have chaos, but just do it the order way. Rush rush rush


Much harder with crawlers
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Feb 26, 2013 12:09 AM #897167
then get juggers!
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Feb 26, 2013 12:12 AM #897172
What I question is how e got like 5 swords 1 castle archr 1 wall 1 medium giant and like 12 miners in 3-5 minutes
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Feb 28, 2013 10:52 PM #900167
Ok I guess ill have to find out the hard way XD
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Feb 28, 2013 11:54 PM #900202
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What I question is how e got like 5 swords 1 castle archr 1 wall 1 medium giant and like 12 miners in 3-5 minutes


Miners. They're powerful.

Anyway, I don't play chaos, but I can imagine giant massers are quite difficult to deal with, because you don't have a nice, robust opening unit like the swordwrath. I can say though, that these all help:
Marrowkai (reaper)
Medusa (stone face does lots of damage)
Juggerknights (5 juggers = 1 fully grown giant)
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Mar 1, 2013 12:20 AM #900212
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Anyway, I don't play chaos, but I can imagine giant massers are quiet difficult to deal with


Not for me. I have my ways handling them, plus the giants are nerfed so their should be a lower chance(or no chance) of meeting a giant masser.
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Mar 1, 2013 12:47 AM #900221
Well i have managed to be in the top 100, because i have noticed that you do not let your opponent mass giants. Just get center tower, tower spawn and do Hit and runs with Eclipsors. (You have to be really swift for this to work)
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Mar 1, 2013 2:15 AM #900285
I meet em every other match or so
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Mar 1, 2013 3:28 AM #900325
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I meet em every other match or so


Well what Empire do you use? Because if you are order and your opponent is Order well it's pretty even.
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Mar 1, 2013 3:46 AM #900344
Uh what section is ths posted? Of course I use chaos
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Mar 1, 2013 5:02 AM #900385
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What I question is how e got like 5 swords 1 castle archr 1 wall 1 medium giant and like 12 miners in 3-5 minutes


Hi.
If you play a giant masser who gets up these things so quick that you think 'wtf?' then save the replay and see exactly how he did it.

It may well be that your not harassing him enough - this allows him to spam early miners, which is the foundation of a giant masser's plan.

A few points;
You need to be in control of center tower, if not, your outplayed and its only going to end one way. If he's building units to fight for center early game, he's not building loads of miners as he has a limited income.
Early game is key - if he's got up super defences and a city of miners, its only a matter of time till he has a giant army, and uts gonna be hard - but not impossible to defeat that as chaos.
If you have the tower, you need to harass his economy from the start - first with crawlers as soon as possible. You may not kill many miners with a few crawlers, but you are stopping them mine if they are fighting you, and you are trying to force him to build an early castle archer - this is to stop those 300 gold being two more miners. If he doesnt build an early castle archer, and he has a lot of miners, bombs are really useful option. If you have a small group of bombers stationed at the center tower thats a real and present threat to him!
Once he buys castle archer, crawlers are useless to attack miners, unless you are skilled enough to use the tower spawn to tank and you keep your crawlers away from the splash damage - which is possible. Normally you'd tech up to juggers and/or wings with tower spawn. BUT dont forget even when he has castle archer, before you have tower spawn, you should be able to harass his outer gold. A single wing can kill his miners on outer gold from out of range of castle archer.

Well I hope these pointers give you a bit of hope.

Since the giant nerf, I have hardly lost at all to giant spam. Only when he builds some other army first, then switches out for giants later game are giant spammers a serious threat.

It is very very hard to mass giants without miners on both rows of gold.
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