Quote from ShadowyWhisper

No. The pop equivalent. 1 Giant vs 2 Spearton.

...Why would you only have 2 speartons by the time your opponent has an early giant? Test realistic game situations, not just popcount.

But if you're going Spearton mass over Giant Mass, then you're testing 26 Spearton vs 11 Giants.

Shadowy, you fucked up this whole thread. I don't mass giants, just on certain times. And those times, I lost. This was supposed to be a guide on how to turtle, and alba and speartons are vital to this. After that, you can use your own build.

I easily take Aiman down with early units. XD Won 3 streaks without losing.

(/' ')/ TT

Flipping table...mini version. But yeah, you improved a lot.

Quote from isgood

well early giant is good if your turtling for a giant mass. NEVER underestimate giant massing.

Try 20 swords with rage and 10 archers + tower spawn 1 vs 3 giants

Quote from stickman311

Try 20 swords with rage and 10 archers + tower spawn 1 vs 3 giants

You are not making any sense

hahaha. Flipping ... block of wood?

Early giant is only intimidating, if your a good player you should have a defence ready by the time he gets a giant

umm, i'm 20 elo and when he has a giant i would have pwned him already

Hold on, there's a big flaw in this.

If I put my wall on the 2nd row of gold, the enemy's archer is sure to destroy it in safety. Isn't that a waste?

Quote from Narsheh

Hold on, there's a big flaw in this.

If I put my wall on the 2nd row of gold, the enemy's archer is sure to destroy it in safety. Isn't that a waste?

Then just dont put the miner wall on the 2nd row of gold...

When you put that miner wall up, he should just be having the archer just then. And the miner wall could hold off the archer long enough for you (or me) to make an alba + spearton.

A good replay, showing you a good turtle, is added to the OP. And that was me using laptop mouse.

See, if he attacks 2 row of gold till the time u dont get alba, just get it or get one archer atleast then put the archer just in the middle of wall or a little bit forward, be sure to get a meric and he wont be able to attack ur wall or hurt ur archer, isnt it right, if u cant get one archer till that time, so ur a big noob just making swords and speartons or whatever , collecting gold..