you said we both asked rhetorical questions, when did you ask one?

Quote from CronosXIII

Are you ever going to realize that its not the program its the person using it.

I seem to have misplaced the question mark.

It's hard to tell if this could really be considered rhetorical though.

Quote from CronosXIII

What kind of question is that?

Are you Crono from DD?
Also 2-D, you are trolling like crazy.
You basically baited every pivot animator to make a remark back to you which you'd probably make a smug-ass remark like you did to Crono. If you're going to have as many posts as you do and are respected, don't troll. Geez, trollers ruin every community.

Are You?????..............Marvoulus Samitch

Nope, i'm not Crono. Plus we animate quite differently, he uses a relatively realistic style, I use a smooth trailing style.

I am on DD though, and Crono has rejected my attempts at intermediate 3 times. Therefore DD is gay.

In all my life in SPP. 2-D is the only one who hates pivot.

He's just the only one who comes into the pivot section to say it. The others avoid the section entirely but since 2-D's a mod he has to make sure we're being good.

Quote from Topleggedskater

Are you Crono from DD?
Also 2-D, you are trolling like crazy.
You basically baited every pivot animator to make a remark back to you which you'd probably make a smug-ass remark like you did to Crono. If you're going to have as many posts as you do and are respected, don't troll. Geez, trollers ruin every community.

2-D is a special troll. He gets Privileges.

i'm not trolling

Quote from Jutsu

OMFYGGIN GAWD WHEYZ JOO HATER THA PIVERT?!?!??11//1/

Sorry, I figured you guys........ I thought perhaps...... Okay you guys don't type like that right? I was kind of referring to noobs that think that 2-d is wrong full to hate on a program that they are barely familiar with and barely use. When in truth he isn't and I think that their comments have no point, I actually think the both of you are cool for the most part.

Quote from 2-D

i'm not trolling

*Deep breath* No sir, no you are not. You are just voicing your particular dislike with the current animation program known as pivot and there is nothing wrong with that. I digress that there have been times whether current or past that one may be lead to believe that you are trolling however I myself don't have clairvoyance therefor I am to inept to tell whether not you may or may not have been trolling at any point at the time. Furthermore, I myself believe that trolls don't admit to there brutal annihilation of person's odd internet emotions and only do it for the ever so elusive lulz and the fact that you have not typed any evidence of vocal or mental humorous activity on the current subject has lead me to deduce that one cannot simply just assume that you're trolling in any sense of the meaning, however the fact that you have not admitted to trolling could mean that you're trolling according to my logic.
So what do I know? What I do know is that, if a troll doesn't admit that he or she is trolling means that he could be just saying it to be a troll, or he could be telling you that he isn't because he honestly believes he isn't. The cards are in favor of him no matter what accusations you through at him, he could be telling the truth or just playing you. Ether way I stick by my statement that accusing him gets nowhere and should be avoided. If you think someone is trolling, you should ignore it.
I regress that I believe he isn't currently not trolling, because he hasn't said anything in the last week or so that is even slightly aggravating or indicative of goading anyone and that I still believe that he is just voicing an honest opinion currently, so in other words he is being treated unfairly although I still think he gets away with being blatantly hard ass on other members 2-D has been here far to long for me to let people be douche bags to him.
Think about it, if he was just voicing an honest opinion and rival posted aggressively that means rival is more likely the troll.

Oh, Jeez he's on a rampage again. You guys are really that butt hurt about some one saying pivot is bad? Grow up, really.

If you read it, he's saying there's no point to this argument. And I agree with him.

Quote from 2-D

WARNING:
Animating in pivot will grant you no respect by the community. No one will look up to you for creating a pivot, other then other pivoters. You should go and download easytoon, or a demo of Adobe Flash and animate like a REAL animator.
Side effects of Pivot Stick Figure Animator:
Homosexuality
Disgracing family members
Inverted testicles
Erectile Dysfunction
Tiny Penis Syndrome
Talking with a lisp

The parts I outlined were trollish remarks. He baited pivoters into saying something like "NO U PH4G. U FAIL. PIV0T IS B34S†!". That is complete troll.

No , he is right.
I am leaving the pivot section...

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The parts I outlined were trollish remarks. He baited pivoters into saying something like "NO U PH4G. U FAIL. PIV0T IS B34S†!". That is complete troll.

i don't appreciate you editing my post like that, sir.

Quote from Jutsu

*Deep breath* No sir, no you are not. You are just voicing your particular dislike with the current animation program known as pivot and there is nothing wrong with that. I digress that there have been times whether current or past that one may be lead to believe that you are trolling however I myself don't have clairvoyance therefor I am to inept to tell whether not you may or may not have been trolling at any point at the time. Furthermore, I myself believe that trolls don't admit to there brutal annihilation of person's odd internet emotions and only do it for the ever so elusive lulz and the fact that you have not typed any evidence of vocal or mental humorous activity on the current subject has lead me to deduce that one cannot simply just assume that you're trolling in any sense of the meaning, however the fact that you have not admitted to trolling could mean that you're trolling according to my logic.
So what do I know? What I do know is that, if a troll doesn't admit that he or she is trolling means that he could be just saying it to be a troll, or he could be telling you that he isn't because he honestly believes he isn't. The cards are in favor of him no matter what accusations you through at him, he could be telling the truth or just playing you. Ether way I stick by my statement that accusing him gets nowhere and should be avoided. If you think someone is trolling, you should ignore it.
I regress that I believe he isn't currently not trolling, because he hasn't said anything in the last week or so that is even slightly aggravating or indicative of goading anyone and that I still believe that he is just voicing an honest opinion currently, so in other words he is being treated unfairly although I still think he gets away with being blatantly hard ass on other members 2-D has been here far to long for me to let people be douche bags to him.
Think about it, if he was just voicing an honest opinion and rival posted aggressively that means rival is more likely the troll.

boy howdy.
i dislike pivot intensely. and i truely believe that the userbase is full of people like that guy on youtube whos name escapes me.. pivotmasterDX i think. i'm sure he got a lot of youngin's into pivot, sadly to make bad animations like he did.
though its not just that, its mainly stuff like this
.. well just take a look here and you'll see what i mean.
http://www.stickpageportal.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=110

Of course, I must disagree. I don't think that the current animations are extremely bad, however anything involving zed I like. Truth be told I kind of enjoy animating in pivot more than flash, mainly because I dislike the layout of flash. I don't want to do a whole lot when I open it and when I do I get bombarded with an array of options that don't seem necessary but are there anyways. Though I do think flash is a vastly superior program I just don't think it is for everyone, as to where pivot is a program anyone can get and learn. Asking for them to not be beginners with poor animations spelling and grammar is asking way to much, which is very despondent indeed.
On the other hand I don't think it is to much to ask for the pivot sections total destruction, animators who want to keep animating seriously will find ways into easytoon and micromedia flash and hopefully the rest will die off. However if pivot didn't exist someone like pivot masterdx would surely arise for easytoon or some other program and draw a ridiculous amount of beginners to that program. It isn't exactly something easily avoidable, just wishing away the pivot section would be nice but will not do.
I propose that poor spelling and a constant asshole attitude should result in infractions and eventual ban, along with people refusing to except critique who should get cattle branded in the ****ing eye socket. Though I still think that that is asking to much, so without any other ideas I don't think that the pivot section will die anytime soon.
So sadly I think that you are kind of in a position that you extremely dislike something that is most likely permanent. It's like my hate for the sun, it's going to be there until the day I die and further. This will keep breeding into people like rival who don't have a clue about how pointless telling you to not hate pivot so hard is and a never ending cycle of my dangerously long ass posts. I further remark that pivot is most likely going to stay or due to it's absents it is going to cause another program to be a catalyst for the black flames so hot that they burn other flame and so very dark that it casts shadow on other shadow known as your hate for pivot from the depths of damnation itself.
Further more beginners will never stop arriving to cause posts voicing their woeful oppositions to your completely legitimate dislike for a program that you supply the link for just so they can turn around and bitch. However even according to my logic that makes this post just one in a series of never ending absurdly long comments making this counterproductive, as far as I know if I didn't comment at all everything could have been fine with gum drops and ice cream.


Edit: I also like your avatar and I still am not convinced of you being a troll by that one noobs comment.