Quote from JeffThat's not really the same thing at all. No one is saying "Oh, I made these sound effects." The fact that they're giving Pepper credit is all that really matters there. Pepper releases his work for free for anyone to use anyway. Danmark traced parts of his animation from a copyrighted source and made no mention through credits or otherwise until it was pointed out that he did so. He was allowing people to give him credit for something he didn't do and was just as happy not to correct them or notify them when commenting on effects he didn't make.
I'm not going to lie I was being sarcastic throughout that whole post almost :( yeah taking sound effects from pepper is not the same as taking clips of animation from a known copyrighted source.
Quote from ultrachimpI've been gone for a long time, and DK, I'm incredibly disappointed. You can't rotoscope for a final animation that you're getting paid for. You just can't do that. You know that you can't do that. It's wrong, full stop.
And Arch-Angel, I'm disappointed that you're so casual about it. You can't just pass over something as serious as this and pass it off as people being "jelly". SethX got BANNED before for rotoscoping. You cannot dismiss it. I've seen animators be pissed about their animation being taken away from them, even when there wasn't money involved. The amount of time and effort taken to make an anime is extreme, and taking that, and passing it as your own work is not just wrong but kind of sad.
I'm deeply, deeply disappointed with you DK and hope you won't do it again.
I'm more deeply disappointed with the people who are so causal about it.
It's stealing.
Like I said above, sarcasm :/ I don't think it's as big of a deal as everyone's making it to be, and I certainly wouldn't ban anyone for doing. I've banned people for stealing artwork and animation pieces because even after being presented with evidence against them they denied what they did and claimed it as their own. I've even traced some naruto full body for like 20 frames and everyone thought it was the shit and then thought I was a piece of shit for tracing it even though it was the most obvious thing anyone could do. Especially since the clip was someone's signature >_> dk isn't going to rotoscope anything ever again and that's what counts, other than that people should get off of his nuts.
Quote from MiccoolHe roto'd on like 3 different occasions even when I said I'd ban him the next time I saw it.. I banned him for like a week or two or something... I think that's pretty fair : |
Yeah that's fair because you warned him about it, I would have made it very clear that it wouldn't be accepted and would have permanent banned him for doing it again. It's one thing when people do it and admit to doing it and say they won't do it again, but it's another to keep making the same mistakes regardless of the consequences.
Quote from SmileYeah I said that because I thought what you did was fair, and that DanmarK should have the same fate too.
But like, you know, I'm not a mod or whatever so I thought I'd just say something because I hate him now.
Why would you hate him? You're saying that you've never traced anything either? Everyone does at some point in their life with this kind of stuff. Sure it's not right that he made money while having some rotoscoped effects going on but he did admit to it, I'm sure he wont do it again, and even without the rotoscoped effects the animation is still good enough to be sponsored.