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No, it shouldn't be who has more Wingadons wins. Why do you think they keep getting nerfed? It should be who has the better overall army wins. Not mass 1-2 offensive units are game over.
This is not Starcraft 2 and these are not marines.

Brock has been told as well.

no, if this is the case, they should buff units like dead, crawler, bomber, units that are rarely used in mid game.Ppl mass wings and jugs because the other units are too weak , like crawlers, who actually uses cats n deads in mid game, rarely, however archer and sword are still being used in mid games at times, hence, they should not nerf eclipsors, but Instead buff weak units, units that are rarely used in chaos mid game to let us use a better overall army. And deads especially, archer are being used in mid game, however, deads are not as they deal little damage, and are slow, cannot kite, that's y ppl use eclipsors instead of deads.Therefore, weak units should be buff to let players balance their army, and not massing units.

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No, it shouldn't be who has more Wingadons wins. Why do you think they keep getting nerfed? It should be who has the better overall army wins. Not mass 1-2 offensive units are game over.
This is not Starcraft 2 and these are not marines.

Brock has been told as well.

sry for double post, but my arguement is long, so I want to separate them.
Moreover, if jugs can no longer block for wings, then would worse. Because jugs cannot block for wings, in chaos vs chaos, ppl would mass wings, the one with more wings wins. U see, deads are too slow to take down opposing wings, therefore, deads could not be used.as a result, in chaos vs chaos, players with more wings, giant to shield, and bomber to blast, would win, making a mid game of only bombs, wings, and giants .hence, jugs should block for wings.

then juggs should be super tall

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then juggs should be super tall

Well, possible, or wings fly lower, and tall jugs

Quote from Tecness2

No, it shouldn't be who has more Wingadons wins. Why do you think they keep getting nerfed? It should be who has the better overall army wins. Not mass 1-2 offensive units are game over.
This is not Starcraft 2 and these are not marines.

Brock has been told as well.

Tec :/
FACE YOUR SIG
Repair it...
Also why do you just come out of no where just to do some moderater work and then leave? :/

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no, if this is the case, they should buff units like dead, crawler, bomber, units that are rarely used in mid game.Ppl mass wings and jugs because the other units are too weak , like crawlers, who actually uses cats n deads in mid game, rarely, however archer and sword are still being used in mid games at times, hence, they should not nerf eclipsors, but Instead buff weak units, units that are rarely used in chaos mid game to let us use a better overall army. And deads especially, archer are being used in mid game, however, deads are not as they deal little damage, and are slow, cannot kite, that's y ppl use eclipsors instead of deads.Therefore, weak units should be buff to let players balance their army, and not massing units.

I have to disagree. It will make chaos OP early game. Plus, crawlers are only for early game. Seriously, it's only a low tier unit. I can't understand why would you want a low tier unit to be smashed to pieces in late game.

Archer and swords are definitely stronger than bombs and crawlers. That's why they are used mid game. Unlike bombs and crawlers.

And there's more than you'd expect, in people who masses deads. Perhaps you're not there yet.

@Buddy, it's his job, so yeah.

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I have to disagree. It will make chaos OP early game. Plus, crawlers are only for early game. Seriously, it's only a low tier unit. I can't understand why would you want a low tier unit to be smashed to pieces in late game.

Archer and swords are definitely stronger than bombs and crawlers. That's why they are used mid game. Unlike bombs and crawlers.

And there's more than you'd expect, in people who masses deads. Perhaps you're not there yet.

@Buddy, it's his job, so yeah.

Umm, albowtross shouldn't even be used in order vs chaos
Also, swords can't be used in mid-game. 3 crawlers will kill an archer. 3 bombs will kill swords. With rage, it only takes 2. Swords can't be used. Instead, spears are used cuz of its health and armour. Then, followed by giants. However, for archer, a ranged unit is essentianal, and giants don't come that early, but albowtross,it is a flying unit, so it is the same as the eclipsor, only weaker. Albowtross needs blazing blots to be the same as eclipsor, but the training time and cost for albowtross is both more than an eclipsor

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Umm, albowtross shouldn't even be used in order vs chaos

By saying this: All of you guys said that most of orders units shouldnt be used against Chaos.... like albow or shadowrath.... but isnt it kinda unfair? While Chaos can use ALL there units, you say Order can ONLY use SOME units....... strange???

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shouldn't albos ALLWAYS be used against order v chaos?

Bombers = Albows dead.

Not really, with blazing bolts albows one shot bombers. Albowtross are also very good against eclipsors, as they recieve reduced damage from eclipsors due to their armor

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I have to disagree. It will make chaos OP early game. Plus, crawlers are only for early game. Seriously, it's only a low tier unit. I can't understand why would you want a low tier unit to be smashed to pieces in late game.

Archer and swords are definitely stronger than bombs and crawlers. That's why they are used mid game. Unlike bombs and crawlers.

And there's more than you'd expect, in people who masses deads. Perhaps you're not there yet.

@Buddy, it's his job, so yeah.

it is ok that u disagree, well, but tec is the one who said to use a mix better overall army.
I know of ppl who mass deads instead of wings, but how many are there? My rating is 1925 and I rarely see dead mass, they used wings instead. I believe pakistani winner and waseem are dead massers, but if u compare the number of chaos who use deads , they are much lesser than those who use wings. because wings are fast er, and they can kite, unlike deads.

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Not really, with blazing bolts albows one shot bombers. Albowtross are also very good against eclipsors, as they recieve reduced damage from eclipsors due to their armor

Try actually HITTING a Bomber with an Albow. Theoretically Albows should be good against Chaos; in practice Bomber speed negates it.

Albows are like deads, not used

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Umm, albowtross shouldn't even be used in order vs chaos
Also, swords can't be used in mid-game. 3 crawlers will kill an archer. 3 bombs will kill swords. With rage, it only takes 2. Swords can't be used. Instead, spears are used cuz of its health and armour. Then, followed by giants. However, for archer, a ranged unit is essentianal, and giants don't come that early, but albowtross,it is a flying unit, so it is the same as the eclipsor, only weaker. Albowtross needs blazing blots to be the same as eclipsor, but the training time and cost for albowtross is both more than an eclipsor

Alba is better than wingi. Armor pierce, they themselves have armor. More health. But this unit has also been nerfed. 450g, 200m. Slower training time, slower speed. If it were to be buffed, you guys would complain about how OP alba is.