I just had a match with some guy with a double account. Don't know who he is, but he tore me apart, even my giant spamming. However, in the course of the fight, I had one stroke of inspiration for better turtling: The fake rush.

This is a strategy to be used by the losing player, usually the one who turtled too long. During your turtle, you keep spamming miners while your opponent gets the better army and rushes your base, while your archers and walls are unable to stop their advance. However, it is possible to stall their army with just one spearton or one shadow, without using merics and with no walls.

First of all, since you are the one who is turtling, the enemy won't expect you to suddenly attack their miners.

Therefore, they won't have castle archers.

Therefore, if you can get something that is faster than their troops and tough enough to run past their troops, you get a shot at killing their miners. This will force the enemy's entire army to break off their attack and follow your single unit back to his/her base, where your unit dies a horrible death doing almost no damage at all to one single miner.

However, by then, your enemy will have broken off their attack and will have to make their way over to your base once again. By which time, you shall have another spearton or shadowrath ready to break through their army and perform the same trick all over again.

Of course, by the third time, your enemy will probably be smart enough to realize even if you manage to kill off one or two of his miners, it won't matter since your statue will be dead by the time you rush his statue.

By that time, however, you should have built up an army to rival his, and with the help of castle archers and walls, you should easily send the enemy packing.

Now, I admit that the enemy could easily ignore you and simply continue their rush on your statue while your single spearton or shadow gets killed by the massed miners who mob up on it.

However, for some reason, most people never think of that the first time they see this, and send an entire army retreating back to their base to kill one rushing spearton or shadowrath who will most likely die anyway.

Here's a replay of how I used that strategy to hold out for two more minutes on Grass Hills.
www.stickempires.com/play?replay=replay1993165&version=1.68

Damn, noobs always spam their strategies and I just don't why. 1 spear is very easy to kill.

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Damn, noobs always spam their strategies and I just don't why. 1 spear is very easy to kill.

well he should send a little of his army to attack

or just buy a castle archer and keep attacking.

The point of the spear is to die. He is supposed to die to buy time.

Look, I hate it when people just see me and say, oh no, another noob with his dumb strategies and read the replay with a smirk on their face about the noob being killed without even reading the point of it.

For those of you who aren't patient enough to read my entire message, the short version: The point was, if I kept sending single spears at their miners, I would have stalled long enough to build my own army.

Please, guys, I'm a noob, I'm long-winded, and I'm a pain in the ass as well, but if you're going to insult me, at least read what I post first.

The point of the entire strategy is to buy time. You send a spear to attack them; they send their army to kill your spear.

When they get back to you, you have another spear waiting to attack their miners again.

All the time, since you have the superior economy thanks to turtling, you keep growing stronger.

This is NOT the default strategy; this is a strategy to seek victory from the jaws of defeat.

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The point of the spear is to die. He is supposed to die to buy time.

Look, I hate it when people just see me and say, oh no, another noob with his dumb strategies and read the replay with a smirk on their face about the noob being killed without even reading the point of it.

For those of you who aren't patient enough to read my entire message, the short version: The point was, if I kept sending single spears at their miners, I would have stalled long enough to build my own army.

Please, guys, I'm a noob, I'm long-winded, and I'm a pain in the ass as well, but if you're going to insult me, at least read what I post first.

The point of the entire strategy is to buy time. You send a spear to attack them; they send their army to kill your spear.

When they get back to you, you have another spear waiting to attack their miners again.

All the time, since you have the superior economy thanks to turtling, you keep growing stronger.

This is NOT the default strategy; this is a strategy to seek victory from the jaws of defeat.

I completely agree.
Speartons are supposed to be defensive and serve well as living meat shields however, a Shadowrath with shinobi II will be a better option if you have gold and mana to spare.
I think this strategy would work to a certin degree and would be worth trying :).

Also what is your rating?

What was your opponent's (Fallenlegacy) Rating?

Was the battle fair in terms of ability?

I'd use this strategy vs Opponents of My ability not when in i or my adversary have a ability advantage

dude, krainbow, I know from experience not to double-post, just edit the articles.

I'm in the 1600s, sometimes rise to the 1700s and sometimes fall back to the 1500s. But mainly, I stay in the 1600 range.

I think FallenLegacy had reached 1800s.

If anyone is smart they would think.

"hmm hes sending a single spearton at my base. Should I alleviate my attack send my entire army back, and let him regroup, or just keep hitting him with an attack that is 5 times as devastating as what he could do after he reaches my base after one minute."

In other words, doesnt work that well if your opponent just goes for the smart choice.

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Damn, noobs always spam their strategies and I just don't why.

There should be a rule; u must be 2k to post your strat

Or a new forum; rookies and people who know what they're talking about...

I agree to a new forum; there should be someplace for bigheads to discuss and ridicule their old strategies while noobs can invent better ones.

I'm sorry, but the chances of this working is low. There's so many flaws. While I don't like to ridicule other people's work, this is just so... retarded.

I'll give you pointers on when to post a strategy.
1. Make sure it works.
2. Test it yourself.
3. Determine what rating it's effective.

And when you have done all of these, the chances of people calling your thread retarded is low.

Actually, this works for me. I tested it several times.

Mid game, the enemy has 3 speartons, 3 archers.

You have nothing but a miner wall and level 1 castle archer and miners.

Make a spearton, send at the enemy, they will move all troops to kill your spearton.

The reason?

They can't send two spearton back to attack you, becasue the spearton left to attack your base will get killed by castle archer.

They can't leave the archers behind, because the next spearton you make will rush their unprotected archers. This works.

Actually I dont understand your strat......can you give me a replay where it works and you win? And btw: Whats your rating?