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How to counter deads with Order?

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Aug 1, 2013 7:52 AM #1054276
I dunno how to counter deads mass, in a dead mass, they usually make 1-2 lines deads with 1 or 2 juggerknights and a few wingtons plus some mages, e.g. marrowkais and medusas

Deads seem dealing low damage, but when they group together, they can easily pwn tanks, e.g. giants, speartons (They eat giant level 2...)

I tried many ways to defeat this combo
swordwraths with rage? No, bombers
speartons mass? deads pwn
Giants mass? deads still pwn
Magikills? Medusa pwn
Albowtross? No! Deads poisoned them all

Does anyone know how to defeat dead mass with order?
Or did you tried that?

Please help me, thx
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Aug 1, 2013 2:08 PM #1054421
On short maps, what will work is if you go 1 miner and 2 swords first, and then keep spamming swords and attacking the opponent's crawlers and miners. On longer maps, what some order players do is they don't sword rush the opponent, and then they make 2 castle archers, and mass allbowtross. They do not take more than the first layer of gold, and then they get a giant to shield the allbowtross and then attack the deads. The giant will block the deads' projectiles and the allbowtross can kill the deads.
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Aug 1, 2013 10:59 PM #1054871
Playing against chaos your best move is to harass them as much as possible early game. If the problem persists, I recommend sowrdwrath mass. Don't use rage, and make sure to micro.
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Aug 3, 2013 6:14 PM #1056431
chaos is pretty cool, but it has weak points. For example, the chaos player, if hes not good at micro, (as you need that early game, as chaos units cheap) then you could exploit that advantage. So how does the opponent with chaos start? thats important.
i. e does he start with dead or 5 giants (jk) or bombers/cat combo... etc...
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Aug 4, 2013 7:28 AM #1057076
Quote from XJAWZ
chaos is pretty cool, but it has weak points. For example, the chaos player, if hes not good at micro, (as you need that early game, as chaos units cheap)


Ähm....well, the whole game depends on HOW you micro and HOW you macro.... of course if one site micros badly the other site win of course....
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Aug 4, 2013 8:54 PM #1057591
i countered with mages and shadows for the win
which of course only worked because my opponent did not harass while i was turtleing
not only did the mass deads but they had a few medusas juggerknights and a ghost giant too
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Aug 4, 2013 11:04 PM #1057663
Since Deads are armoured, couldn't you use a combo of spears to rush them, albows to tear through their armour and giants to tank for the albows. The giants will have merics curing them. If the deads target your albows, both giants and speartons will block them.
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Aug 5, 2013 3:17 PM #1058103
Quote from Cha05Walking
i countered with mages and shadows for the win
which of course only worked because my opponent did not harass while i was turtleing
easy peasy lemon squeezy


ähm....you sure you posted the right replay?
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Aug 5, 2013 7:16 PM #1058175
let me check . . .
dang, wrong replay
and now i don't have the right one saved anywhere either
i delete the replay i posted earlier
the shadow and mage combo did work tho and if i do come across another dead masser ill be sure to save the replay
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Aug 6, 2013 3:30 PM #1058903
Quote from Cha05Walking
let me check . . .
dang, wrong replay
and now i don't have the right one saved anywhere either
i delete the replay i posted earlier
the shadow and mage combo did work tho and if i do come across another dead masser ill be sure to save the replay


We will wait for it ^^
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Aug 8, 2013 11:11 AM #1060385
Get spear archer, and azxc you haven't tried one yet: magikill and merics. if they get medusa get shadowrath. One spearton and shadowr will defeat medusa
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Aug 8, 2013 12:31 PM #1060436
I'm pretty sure 1 swordwrath and ninja can kill a medusa
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Aug 8, 2013 1:34 PM #1060472
Quote from fhtrg
I'm pretty sure 1 swordwrath and ninja can kill a medusa


I'm prettey sure the swordwrath will die by the eclipsors before the shadowrath or swordwrath even comes close to the medusa. The shadowrath will escape but not the spear
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Aug 8, 2013 3:21 PM #1060544
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I'm prettey sure the swordwrath will die by the eclipsors before the shadowrath or swordwrath even comes close to the medusa. The shadowrath will escape but not the spear


Thats what we call sacrifice....sacrifice an unit to destroy another unit ^^ This is called war..
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Aug 8, 2013 10:59 PM #1060760
counter with meric spear albow giant combo
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