Whenever I play as chaos, people just sword rush me and my crawlers don't even kill anything! They just attack while my miners are garrisoned, putting me back in economy. Then he gets a spearton and archers. He separates his archers then gets a meric so the castle dead will be useless. Then this is the time I surrender. They really need to do more damage

They plan on making the upgrades faster. (which will definitely help alot) anyways, instead of garrisoning your miners, attack with them. (their not going to be mining anyways right?)

Well, crawlers were made to be used en masse. Use Juggs to both rush in at the archers/merics and tank for the crawlers that you can use to Zerg Rush enemies. Tis a stragety game, bruh. Also, don't give up, fight till the end and you could get more wins.

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MatrixNinja2000;1068589']Well, crawlers were made to be used en masse. Use Juggs to both rush in at the archers/merics and tank for the crawlers that you can use to Zerg Rush enemies. Tis a stragety game, bruh. Also, don't give up, fight till the end and you could get more wins.

Which is the problem. In OvC swords can be massed just as quickly. Swords are made at the same queue time and for only 25 more. I think sword queue time should go up by one second and crawler queue time go down by one second. He also isn't talking about midgame, meaning he wouldn't have TIME to get a jugger out. Its not about buffing them so they are useful in midgame, its about buffing them so you can survive to the point of midgame to get juggers and such out. and such.

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Which is the problem. In OvC swords can be massed just as quickly. Swords are made at the same queue time and for only 25 more. I think sword queue time should go up by one second and crawler queue time go down by one second. He also isn't talking about midgame, meaning he wouldn't have TIME to get a jugger out. Its not about buffing them so they are useful in midgame, its about buffing them so you can survive to the point of midgame to get juggers and such out. and such.

My point was that you back up the crawlers. And if your opponent has an army of archers and merics then you should have at least some Juggs. Use units how you're supposed to as well. Crawlers aren't freaking speartons.

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Whenever I play as chaos, people just sword rush me and my crawlers don't even kill anything! They just attack while my miners are garrisoned, putting me back in economy. Then he gets a spearton and archers. He separates his archers then gets a meric so the castle dead will be useless. Then this is the time I surrender.

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MatrixNinja2000;1068601']My point was that you back up the crawlers. And if your opponent has an army of archers and merics then you should have at least some Juggs. Use units how you're supposed to as well. Crawlers aren't freaking speartons.

The point HE made was that he wasn't able to defend with them in the early game and had to garrison his miners, causing the order player to get ahead in his econ. He doesn't have an army of archers and merics while he has crawlers.

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The point HE made was that he wasn't able to defend with them in the early game and had to garrison his miners, causing the order player to get ahead in his econ. He doesn't have an army of archers and merics while he has crawlers.

Then don't start with just crawlers. Crawlers like shadowrath usually aren't good alone. Have dead kill off units and crawlers rush in to finish off/kill. If he does this and what I described above the merics will probably be slaughtered by the Juggs and once that happens the castle dead will help along with the field dead. The crawlers should pack up on the archers and take them out nicely with all the support. You see?

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MatrixNinja2000;1068613']Then don't start with just crawlers. Crawlers like shadowrath usually aren't good alone. Have dead kill off units and crawlers rush in to finish off/kill. If he does this and what I described above the merics will probably be slaughtered by the Juggs and once that happens the castle dead will help along with the field dead. The crawlers should pack up on the archers and take them out nicely with all the support. You see?

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I imagine you're one of those 1200-rated mouthbreathers who goes around making "strategy" threads?

.... *facepalm* U sound like u never played SE before, he said he was pressured right at the early game because he thinks crawlers sucks, so he has his miners garrisoned, how the hell do u get your army built when u have eco disadvanteages -_-

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MatrixNinja2000;1068613']Then don't start with just crawlers. Crawlers like shadowrath usually aren't good alone. Have dead kill off units and crawlers rush in to finish off/kill. If he does this and what I described above the merics will probably be slaughtered by the Juggs and once that happens the castle dead will help along with the field dead. The crawlers should pack up on the archers and take them out nicely with all the support. You see?

I think hes still at the rating where people sit there and build armies until the 10 minute mark.

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I think hes still at the rating where people sit there and build armies until the 10 minute mark.

Either a bad troll or a mouthbreathing 1200.

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I think hes still at the rating where people sit there and build armies until the 10 minute mark.

and massing giants and throw boulders to each others :|

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and massing giants and throw boulders to each others :|

And make a CA and mass retreat at the first sign of aggression. You know, the type that say "fuk u" if you attack early. The type that say "OMG U HAKER" If you use tower spawn.

haha, those old times :D seeing tower spawn, OMG how can you doing that? Is that a sorcery? Or they assume that u hack :|

Trouble is early game. Even with a faster upgrade or cheaper resource surviving the first couple minutes is still rough. Just steam roll swordwrath, chaos has no castle archer answer, no turret answer (too slow, too expensive) and when the archidons hit whamo, it's gg.

I don't know if this is the right answer, but the ability to just hit that chaos base so early in the match fearlessly is really rough.