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Really nice CnC there, helps explain why you gave the scores you did. There's scores that I feel need some tweaking but that's always going to be the case ;)

I also think the part "Since the entries are expected to be executed in combo form, failure to do so will result in a deduction from the Quality category." should have been mentioned at the start but at least everyone knows now.

If that is always the case then don't u think something shoud be done about it
& if we are talkin about the way the combo was excute then both guz & oxob have past, they did the impact finisher pretty well, & if anyone else didn't, the the points should be takins away from the anim fight itself, not the quality, you add that to get more points, & if you didn't add any at all, then you sbouldn't be givin a higher score than the people that did, who also executed there combo properly

@judge one, who ever you are, if I am annoying u, just tell me to shut up & I will, I'm not trying to offend you, I'm just wondering why 2D is rated over cenamatics

Well then prepare for more of the same.

Just make 2 pointless sticks fighting eachother for no reason just overloading the whole damn animation with FX and blood, cus that's what kids love right? Blood and fighting scenes and bonebreakers!! Yeah!! Because that's completely new and original and it has never seen before.

Well let me tell you that I told all judges to focus on creativity and originallityand not in the quantity if FX you put into it. You know why?, because that's what everyone here including myself is lacking of. if you want a judge that evaluates you for the same thing over and over again you will never improove.

So if you want this competition to have higher scores based on fx blood and first impression OK then, I'll get other judges that woll always give you scores over 7 points. Or, screw the scores and actually try to imptove your animation style, think in new thinfs in new ways to do the combos, because that's what I want to focus on this version, you don't improve by getting high scores. So.. tell me, what do you all guys think.

Quote from Camila

So if you want this competition to have higher scores based on fx blood and first impression OK then, I'll get other judges that woll always give you scores over 7 points. Or, screw the scores and actually try to imptove your animation style, think in new thinfs in new ways to do the combos, because that's what I want to focus on this version, you don't improve by getting high scores. So.. tell me, what do you all guys think.

Don't change a thing. As far as I can see the judging had been consistent and helpful with judge 1 giving clear reasons why they gave the score they gave, and as long as that consistency is there no one should have a problem.
The competition shouldn't be watered down for the competitors, they should raise to the competition.

Uhh first i really sorry bout this i want compare people's animation
so this 7.2 for creativity and originallity
http://www.filz.us/view/0383cc91-c32/
and this for 3.8
http://guzfa.deviantart.com/art/BSEV5-Round1-408783909

i just dont get it. sorry guys..

What I think.... Let's see......hmmmmmm

I don't know why u would tell the judges to not rate the fx, sense when does bse do that
What's then is the point of BEST sequence EXECUTION

What you just said doesn't explain this, your reason isn't even accurate
If this seasons bse was just based on the 2D fight, then all the anims would look kinda boring don't u think.

We might as well take off the B, & leave it as SE
Explain further please

Quote from Mark XD

If that is always the case then don't u think something shoud be done about it
& if we are talkin about the way the combo was excute then both guz & oxob have past, they did the impact finisher pretty well, & if anyone else didn't, the the points should be takins away from the anim fight itself, not the quality, you add that to get more points, & if you didn't add any at all, then you sbouldn't be givin a higher score than the people that did, who also executed there combo properly

That's not quite what I meant. People will always have different opinions of which animations are best, and precise scoring is even more debatable. That's why there are 3 judges, to make sure that the scorings aren't slanted in favour of a particular style or method. It's also why the 3 judges change from round to round. It's impossible to score an event like this that everyone will agree with so they do the best they can.

Also you mention that there seems to be a bias in favour of 2D, yet the best scoring entry was almost entirely cinematic (and it wasn't the only good scoring cinematic entry).
I'm not going to comment on individual score cuz frankly if it was up to me there would be a ton of 8's and 9's.

Thanks for the 8.5. I appreciate it. Also I felt like my CnC lacks details... I need more HARSH comments.
Really, I honestly like them. They point out my flaws so easily.

Anyway, I gotta agree with some of you.
There's something the first judge has to consider, that it wasn't stated at the first place that a combo resets when a dialogue appears. It's not such a bad thing, you should have considered it knowing that we weren't informed. If I chose to put some dialogues then I could have gotten a fucking 3.0.

The said dialogue does not interfere with the quality. The quality part for me is how much it's pleasing to look, not a non-dialogued combat. I think I remember one member here asking in the last round if it's alright to have a bit of pause on each attack, and Oxob said yes. So what we've learned from our previous experience will undoubtedly be executed in our future actions.

Dear judge one, I don't really know your preference aside from the "no dialogues" thing but let me say this, if you do have strict preferences, better start telling it to Camila so that we'll know.

And effort? 100% for me. You may not know that those sloppy and choppy animations might have been made for hours with sweat and determination. Just because something is choppy doesn't mean it's lazy, unless if it's obviously crappy.

I believed Yun could have gotten a higher score (though I agree a bit on your CnC to him). I think he wasn't lazy, he just focused on the combo more than the background, you do know that just by watching his backgrounds, they looked fucking detailed.

And GUZZY does NOT deserve that score!

By the Way, blood effects, flare effects, shit effects, facial expressions, etc. all contribute to quality. They should be implied as well, they shall not be omitted from the animations. Want to see all the animations without effects? Be SURE or we'll do as you please.

Thanks for the 4th place.

IT HAS TO BE A FREAKING COMBO. If you execute it with only angles inbetween them and only by animating more of the same you will not get a good score. I just want you guys to focus more into create something new raher than practice everything you already know. I don't want to see an FX loaded animation, I want to see new ways of thinking and performance here.

In the past version judges based their scores on their first impression and that's it... REALLY THAT WAS THEIR SCORES BASED ON. If we are talking about that. Then yeah, freaking guz would've get a nice and solid 8.something, but I know he could've done waaayyyy better in this round with his animation capabilities, and while others put everything on their round, even if it wasn't good looking, they got a good score from it. To keep a combo in an animation is freaking hard to do it that's why you'd get more points for it.

I repeat again, mark if you want a judge that gives you flowers, and over 7 points score everytime, then yeah I'll get another judge. But I really want this competition to be something else than prooving who got a better score, I want you all to imptove in what you are lacking off, I want the judge to focus on your weaknesses and give CnC about it and not judge you for what you already know how to do perfectly. So please, someone tell me something, I want to know if the decision I made was the wrong one :I.

I understand what you r saying, the other judges scores seems ok,
But what I'm trying to figure out, is what is going on here, if the first judge isn't rating based on 3d/angle/cenamatics/masking/fps/bgs/fx/sfx/ & only the originality of the combo

Then just say so
Directly!
I'm try to figure how I should approce the next round if this is the case

Quote from Mark XD

I understand what you r saying, the other judges scores seems ok,
But what I'm trying to figure out, is what is going on here, if the first judge isn't rating based on 3d/angle/cenamatics/masking/fps/bgs/fx/sfx/ & only the originality of the combo

Then just say so
Directly!
I'm try to figure how I should approce the next round if this is the case

Creativity. Quality. Effort

I said it at the begining of the round. And Nordin did those 3 aspects in very perfect damn way.

I got a 7.0 in that CnC spoiler ! How great ! Thanks judges. Good job everyone else.

Quote from Camila

IT HAS TO BE A FREAKING COMBO. If you execute it with only angles inbetween them and only by animating more of the same you will not get a good score. I just want you guys to focus more into create something new raher than practice everything you already know. I don't want to see an FX loaded animation, I want to see new ways of thinking and performance here.

In the past version judges based their scores on their first impression and that's it... REALLY THAT WAS THEIR SCORES BASED ON. If we are talking about that. Then yeah, freaking guz would've get a nice and solid 8.something, but I know he could've done waaayyyy better in this round with his animation capabilities, and while others put everything on their round, even if it wasn't good looking, they got a good score from it. To keep a combo in an animation is freaking hard to do it that's why you'd get more points for it.

I repeat again, mark if you want a judge that gives you flowers, and over 7 points score everytime, then yeah I'll get another judge. But I really want this competition to be something else than prooving who got a better score, I want you all to imptove in what you are lacking off, I want the judge to focus on your weaknesses and give CnC about it and not judge you for what you already know how to do perfectly. So please, someone tell me something, I want to know if the decision I made was the wrong one :I.

Nah, not the wrong decision Cami. It's just that that judge based his scores in ENTIRElY in HIS opinions. That's not a bad thing but it's like he wants to see something he wants.

I don't think my reason's reasonable so I better just shut up and concentrate on my exams.

Ok, I think ilm annoying u guys so I'm going to shut myself up, before I get zero score •_•

Quote from Mark XD

Ok, I think ilm annoying u guys so I'm going to shut myself up, before I get zero score •_•

Nah youre clear

Anyways, Cami, will the cncs of judges 2 and 3 be posted?
Sorry if the question was already answered and I didnt saw it.

Nah. Only judge 1 took time to write a CnC for you.... but it seems that is causing a lot of problems :I