Quote from AhdoMatic

Can we all just wait till the next round? Save your comments. Just do the next round and give it your best shot. All this arguing is really giving me a migraine.

Agreed. At least after another round the extremes will likely even out (scoring events like this normally do).

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Of course when Judge 1 goes through everyone's parts and rate them is highly respectable, thinking that doing all of that does take a very long time. But regarding the fact that Judge 1 isn't taking things into context and isn't referencing to other previous BSEs is something that will cause a major spark to a huge BSE rant like last time.

When someone introduces a new aspect for you to improve, that's a good thing. But you won't accept that, it's how good your punches, explosions and angles are you will accept. Never anything else. Aka you only want to play it safe, which is a sure sign of no improvement. You don't want to see something in a new light, because it reveals more weaknesses for you, which is somehow a bad thing. If you're only focusing on the past, doing anything new is pointless.

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We should all know by now that we now what our weaknesses are and what we should've done better. But we would all know that judges can make major mistakes and take things to the wrong way.

So can you, as 90% of people here have done.

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Rosie, many of us have came across the same thing and we all have seen the same post from Hewitt, stone, Camila, Jombo, CaM, etc. We all know. But the mistakes are there and Round 1 is what can determine the outcome. Of course BSE is a fun and educational experience in a way that can make us better through designated directions. But having something that interferes and ruins the point/core of BSE is what makes BSE not enjoyable. If you fix that certain aspect, BSE can turn into a hell of an amazing thing.

No, it's the fact you take BSE too seriously is what makes it not enjoyable, when people take their scores and other people's opinions way out of proportion is what ruins it. (Which is what I meant by "bloodsucking the fun out of the whole thing".) And besides, what's exactly "interfering and ruining the point/core of BSE?

If anyone still has some issue with what I'm saying, I'm more than welcome to take it into private discussion.

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No, it's the fact you take BSE too seriously is what makes it not enjoyable, when people take their scores and other people's opinions way out of proportion is what ruins it. (Which is what I meant by "bloodsucking the fun out of the whole thing".) And besides, what's exactly "interfering and ruining the point/core of BSE?

I take the outcomes seriously because having an unstable verdict right now will affect the final verdict at the end. Not fixing it now will make this entire BSE go down into a much bigger conspiracy than now. Plus, it's not people who take their own scores out of proportion. It's people taking others out of proportion. Not because they're jealous or angry. But because a person with a lot higher skill and knowledge gets a very low score comparing to an animator with some experience and mainly referenced their animation to many other animations in the past. Not to mention getting away with an already-used storyline, angling and scenes, and music.

If we all just disregard these as unfortunate events, then what will we think at the end when this kind of judgement continues? We want this fair. And fair is what makes things like these more enjoyable.

Do something wrong in the beginning always leads to someone taking it seriously. Even with people with a very serious personality like me.

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Wait wait. So you are saying the scores are unfair?. By putting 1 example?. Because I offered myself to host this especifically to make things fair.

camila do you really want me to add more examples????????:

http://www.filz.us/view/b8f64f4d-57d/
is better than:
http://mcrhook.deviantart.com/art/BSE-Round1-412892443?ga_submit_new=10%253A1384146253

or

http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/797/

is better than:

http://fav.me/d6tqfiy

and

http://fav.me/d6tqfiy

and

http://n0rtinmo.deviantart.com/art/Best-Sequence-Execution-Version-5-Round-1-412537950?ga_submit_new=10%253A1384023286

nothing against you irhakakaakhan._.

edit: i did this cuz i dont have anything better to do -_-

i'm kinda new to BSE and haven't really been paying any attention to it, but it looks like fun!

Edit: Looking at alot of the scores and CnCs savy, i think you're not taking into account that alot of the the judges have mentioned being impressed by the amount of effort put into some of the animations, and how some of the animations looked better than anything the creator has ever done before. Just sayin'

oh and i just read through the thread and i now understand

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i'm kinda new to BSE and haven't really been paying any attention to it, but it looks like fun!
Just wanted to ask a little question: if you haven't participated in previous rounds can you still take part in later ones?
If not; is there going to be one big score for each animator at the end of all the rounds giving them a final judgement or something?

pssst read the thread and .. yess. and yes


camila, whats wrong with my anwser?

Judge one, if u are reading this, I take back every thing I said, & thanks for giving me such a sweet score :")

You are all wise
Thank you judges

Woot :D

I didn't know why u rated stone over guz, but I don't care about that any more, bcuz I got more than both of'em lol
Thanks a lot,

*buys judge one magnum ice cream*

If its u camila, thanks again :D

What Savy had said, the example I mentioned is only one of many examples. More examples were displayed in the rant post.

After actually reading the critique from judge 1, I'm more understanding.
It made sense not to break the combo for dialogue, I'll remember that for the better.
THENKS DAWG

First I'd like to say, my final score is very respectable for the quality of entry I put forth. No complaints there.

This is more of an observation, so please see it as so. The evolution of BSE has come to a point where it isn't primarily about the actual combo execution itself, but rather how much "Hollywood" one is willing to give to each aspect of animation. This is the nature of competition though. If you can't compete in one category, such as actual fighting moves, go balls to the wall with the scenery, effects, or angles. I would say when judges start criticizing heavily on things like "scenery" and such, IMO BSE has lost quite a bit of it's original intention though. I understand it can be hard to pass up the extra effort put into other aspects, but this was originally about the combo execution itself. It's hard to see someone who has a elegantly executed combo with believable connections and great posing, get beat out by someone who has a boringly drawn out execution and awkward hits while trying to save it with angles, only to make it look that much more clumsy. Don't worry about their terrible combo, they had a BAMF scenery and VIEWS! OMFG, DID YOU SEE THE GRAPHICS ON THAT TREE, 10 10 10? Haha.

But....This is where the BSE is at! If we want better scores, we improve where the judge says to improve. We improve where winners go all out. It's a competition, and we go by their standards and rules, even if we don't necessarily like it.

I give props out to the judges for rating so many damn entries, and a solid "way to go!" for judge 1 for actually giving each a written critique.

To finish this ridiculous discussion:

We all already know who is better animating compared to other people. What I want to focus on now is quality, effort, and creativity. If you want to win this competition, you will have to focus on these 3 aspects. If you are not agree... well... you are free to leave. But the judges will no longer evaluate what you do the best, they will give you critisism for your weaknesses.

I'm also going to think if change 1-2 judges who gave scores ridiculously high.

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To finish this ridiculous discussion:

We all already know who is better animating compared to other people. What I want to focus on now is quality, effort, and creativity. If you want to win this competition, you will have to focus on these 3 aspects. If you are not agree... well... you are free to leave. But the judges will no longer evaluate what you do the best, they will give you critisism for your weaknesses.

I'm also going to think if change 1-2 judges who gave scores ridiculously high.

thanks camila. now ill get you all some ice cream... nah imma get me some ice cream :I

edit ill suggest you to close the poll

I'll go ahead and say it; I'm the infamous judge one. So anyone who wants to raise a fist can politely shut the fuck up and stop bitching about "conspiracies" and "bias". I don't know any of the animator sir their previous animations. The ones I do know I don't talk to so I'm not Efriends with them. I based the scores off of the four or five highest rating animators, not my personal standards. If you think you have room to complain about what the fuck I ranked your animation or your friends and you also think that giving people less than a 1 point rating is harsh and unfair then you're a ducking moron. Why would I give someone more than one point when they couldn't even finish? That's stupid.

I'm sure I said it in my criticism page, but I mainly ranked the animations on how entertaining they were and how creative they were. Not on how well they were animated.

Also, to end this. If you think I should have given someone extra points for a butt fucking retarded animation style that might have been fun to watch five+ years ago then shit up and stop bitching. How many full length animations use that style? Go ahead and volunteer to judge next round since I probably won't be around, Yun. That way all of your friends and lense flare whores can get higher scores than people who actually tried.

Oh yeah camila, it took about 6 hours straight on the night Bse ended for me to get everything straight. Man I suck lol

Edit 2: I'll reiterate for Nhazul. I based every entry off of the best scoring once a. Don't be butt hurt because more than one person was able to make fucking insanely executed combos and incorporate three dimensional backgrounds and effects into their animation. Don't be upset because people are more creative than you.

Last edit: I'll explain any question or defend any statement you make only via pm. Don't spam the thread with whining you whiners.

Quote from Arch-Angel

I'll go ahead and say it; I'm the infamous judge one. So anyone who wants to raise a fist can politely shut the fuck up and stop bitching about "conspiracies" and "bias". I don't know any of the animator sir their previous animations. The ones I do know I don't talk to so I'm not Efriends with them. I based the scores off of the four or five highest rating animators, not my personal standards. If you think you have room to complain about what the fuck I ranked your animation or your friends and you also think that giving people less than a 1 point rating is harsh and unfair then you're a ducking moron. Why would I give someone more than one point when they couldn't even finish? That's stupid.

I'm sure I said it in my criticism page, but I mainly ranked the animations on how entertaining they were and how creative they were. Not on how well they were animated.

Also, to end this. If you think I should have given someone extra points for a butt fucking retarded animation style that might have been fun to watch five+ years ago then shit up and stop bitching. How many full length animations use that style? Go ahead and volunteer to judge next round since I probably won't be around, Yun. That way all of your friends and lense flare whores can get higher scores than people who actually tried.

Oh yeah camila, it took about 6 hours straight on the night Bse ended for me to get everything straight. Man I suck lol

Edit 2: I'll reiterate for Nhazul. I based every entry off of the best scoring once a. Don't be butt hurt because more than one person was able to make fucking insanely executed combos and incorporate three dimensional backgrounds and effects into their animation. Don't be upset because people are more creative than you.

Man, talk about a disrespectful post full of hate. I'll just say I refuse to enter a competition where a judge has this kind of feelings and language towards his community. Just about every sentence of that, hateful and disgusting man.

Edit: I wasn't upset Arch, I said I was happy with my score, as I intentionally pointed out in my first sentence. I also gave you props. Where all your anguish and hate came from, I will not know. I'll say this though, I don't understand how your a leader here at SP with that kind of language and behavior.