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Nov 18, 2014 12:41 PM #1270321
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I enjoy playing as twitch:
Muramana, runaan's hurricane, blade of the ruined king, phantom dancer, last whisper, berserker grieves*distortion enchantment*
Ghost and Flash.

surprisingly the phantom dancer really ties it together, I turn invisible and when the tank engages I simultaneously hit my ultimate and ghost, the mobility means they can't really run away or chase me. It's all the better if they just stand and take it too. I'll catch most champions even if they flash, I still have my own flash and I can hit E at anytime. It's really brutal.
The damage could be higher, but the critical chance quickly puts the hurt on, especially with all the attack speed and firing 3 projectiles at once. I get to stack on so much poison it's not even right.

On the same note, garen is so tanky it's retarded, I still find this champion objectionable.


You should switch one of those items with IE lol. Especially with phantom dancer, you'll do a lot more damage lol
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Nov 18, 2014 12:52 PM #1270322
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Garen is really just an early game champ, at late game he falls off. Or I'm just bad at him.


Really Hard and Tanky + quite a high damage = fucking op
I've been playing this champ like 90% of my games. Well, it's just actually been two weeks lol, but I'm developing my skills on Garen. Any tips for him?

With a total IP of 800+, who should I buy and why
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Nov 18, 2014 1:54 PM #1270339
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Really Hard and Tanky + quite a high damage = fucking op
I've been playing this champ like 90% of my games. Well, it's just actually been two weeks lol, but I'm developing my skills on Garen. Any tips for him?

With a total IP of 800+, who should I buy and why


Tips on Garen about items

Build on him only 2 offensive items: the first one is the Black Cleaver (since by spinning in the middle of their team you completely wreck their armor stats) and the second depends on you (I usually take Atma's Impaler since it gives crits, armor and ad based on health, but others instead prefer things like Frozen Mallet or Infinity Edge). About the rest, you should get:
-Mercury Treads - you get mr and tenacity, which, together with your W, makes you almost unable to be cc-ed
-Randuin Omen - classic armor tank item
-Spirit Visage - OP health regeneration together with your passive
-Warmog's Armor - another source of health regeneration

At this point, you are a tank who not only cannot die because of your health pool, health regeneration and damage/cc reduction (W), but who can also successfully kill carries thanks to your offensive items and execute whoever gets low on health


Tips on gameplay (in lane)

depending on match up, you play defensively (if enemy has low cost/cd poking abilities) or offensively (enemy is melee and is dependant on abilities (ex. Riven))
When you reach lvl 6, you try to put more pressure on your opponent, since your R can easily change a fight's outcome
Also, you have more possibilities to roam/stay in lane because of passive
(this, however, is a pretty general introduction: for more, search on LoL forums)



About who should you buy, it depends on how you want to play, since with that amount of ip you can only afford one 450 ip champ
here's a short introduction about their pros and cons (with the help of personal esperience and LoLPro pages)

Ashe
pro
-innate slow, free crits on her first auto-atk, gets more gold from farming, can check areas covered by fog of war/bushes from distance, can zone/poke enemies pretty well, has a global range stun
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-no escape mechanism (champion like Garen and Yi can stay on her until she dies (or until she uses the stun on them)), no abilities that increase her damage output, reliant on good positioning to survive fights

Annie
pro
-innate stuns, deals lot of AoE damage, has a controllable pet, easy to farm with
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-no mobility, extremely reliant on stuns to work well (if you get her when she doesn't have it, she won't be having an happy time)

Kayle
pro
-extremely strong ap AoE dps carry (if left alone, her E and passive can completely destroy an enemy team), one of the most OP ultimates (invulnerability), has a slow and a heal/movement speed boost which scales off ap
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-you're basically like a marksman adc: if you don't farm, or stay ahead, or score kills, you become useless. Also, for a mage your damage range is pretty short and you're dependable on activating E to bring out all of your potential. Lastly, you naturally push the lane, thus you could be more affected by enemy ganks

Master Yi
pro
-one of the strongest carry in the game: AoE damage skill that can crit and that makes you invulnerable for a brief moment (it also get rediced cd with each atuo atk), true damage, double melee atk passive, ultimate that gives you atk speed, movement speed, makes you unable to be slowed and in the case you score a kill your cooldowns get a 70% reset and lastly the possibility to get back your health while then enemy's attacks deal reduced damage. Probably the easiest champion with which you can score pentakills
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-any form of cc that isn't a slow (fear, suppression, stun, ecc.) may get you killed. Also, if you're not ahead with kills and farm, you become useless

Nunu
pro
-OP sustain/poke abilities, passive gives him free mana for abilities, W can support other champions and himself pretty well, ultimate (if played well) can completely wreck the enemy team, Q is useful for taking objectives (dragon, baron)
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-needs experience to effectively tick the passive whithout pushing/missing farm (in the case you're top) and to utilize ultimate well. Also, if you get killed early game, it's difficult to get back


there are more, but now I'm tired: others can explain them to you
also, remember 2 things:
1-I'm not a pro, thus what I wrote might be wrong (in this case, feel free to correct me)
2-I don't know how much you know of the game, because if you already know about them, then forget what I wrote and toss a dice. If you don't know about them, then take what I wrote in cosnideration

That's all
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Nov 18, 2014 2:16 PM #1270345
On Garen I build Black Cleaver, Boots of Swiftness + Alacrity, Warmog's, Frozen Mallet, Atma's, Spirit Visage, GA. If you get Baron + Elixir you'll have 100+ health regen per 5 seconds. You'll never have to b again.
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Nov 18, 2014 3:03 PM #1270363
I think Ashe is a good pick for beginners. She teaches you the basics of positioning, csing and auto attacking.. Though she's probably really weak in beginner matches cause she's so immobile and squishy and even really bad players could probably press all the buttons and kill you lol.
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Nov 18, 2014 6:47 PM #1270445
I hate the match making system in this game, just got a match with a kid who said he was playing league at school, shit. Surprise surprise he had to leave a few minutes in after feeding the enemy team 4 kills because he had to take a test. For whatever fucking reason the devs think that it isn't acceptable to surrender until 20 minutes into the game, meaning you have no choice but to fight a pointless frustrating uphill battle or leave the game. And that is completely and utterly retarded, perhaps they could take time from adding new champions to their already bloated and imbalanced game to figure this bullshit out, because it's not fun.

On the same note, teams who refuse to surrender. That's annoying too. Look guys, it's 25 to 2, they're all fed we're just getting deleted at this point. Let's call it yeah? 20 minutes roll around and they refuse to surrender and your own team forces you to endure another 20 minutes of bullshit that inevitably leads to predictable crushing defeat, or to quit.

Just a small list of things I absolutely hate about this game, including how difficult it is to make a comeback when your team is behind.

In other news, Heroes of the storm promises to implement a system where players who leave games will be matched with other game leavers. Which is about the most sick punishment I can think of and the game actually has a comeback mechanic.

Would they send me my beta invite already...you fucking fuck fuckers don't know fuck about how much I want to fucking play your fucking game.

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You should switch one of those items with IE lol. Especially with phantom dancer, you'll do a lot more damage lol

Infinity edge? Yeah it's pretty good.
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Nov 18, 2014 8:32 PM #1270500
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I hate the match making system in this game, just got a match with a kid who said he was playing league at school, shit. Surprise surprise he had to leave a few minutes in after feeding the enemy team 4 kills because he had to take a test. For whatever fucking reason the devs think that it isn't acceptable to surrender until 20 minutes into the game, meaning you have no choice but to fight a pointless frustrating uphill battle or leave the game. And that is completely and utterly retarded, perhaps they could take time from adding new champions to their already bloated and imbalanced game to figure this bullshit out, because it's not fun.


This point is brought up quite a bit. I think what they should do is introduce a system that DOTA 2 uses where if a guy afk's, then the game is safe to leave. So in your case, the guy who had to go take a test would be punished for afking while you and everyone else in the game could leave without any penalty. It's kind of lame that Riot doesn't really do anything about it other than tell you to just report them :/
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Nov 18, 2014 8:45 PM #1270512
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This point is brought up quite a bit. I think what they should do is introduce a system that DOTA 2 uses where if a guy afk's, then the game is safe to leave. So in your case, the guy who had to go take a test would be punished for afking while you and everyone else in the game could leave without any penalty. It's kind of lame that Riot doesn't really do anything about it other than tell you to just report them :/


Lol riot actually doesn't give that much of a fuck to what LoL players tell them: on the forums they never answer back while being asked for clarifications, spend most of the time piling champions over champions instead of fixing the current problems and most of all it's the only damn Moba I ever saw around that doesn't give you all the champions for free and instead forces you to wait god-knows-how-much-time to get the nicer ones (which are all at 6300 ip)
Basically, we're more like bitches to them

The only reason I keep playing this game is basically because they have the most intuitive gameplay from all the others and because my brother plays it too

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Forgot to add the part where they usually go on nerf-berserk mode without actually thinking smart when changing things
Example: I mained Talon, but after the nerf I'm seriously thinking to change my main, since, unless you level up to Challenger-gameplay-mode or they try to improve his mechanics a little bit, it's extremely difficult to win a match as Talon
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Nov 18, 2014 10:11 PM #1270563
Lol I can't help but agree with DiPi, league is a very selective game lol. It is really dependent on a lot. But come on, on those games where you just have two teams that click, then it's just one fun ass game. I play league for those games, there's games that suck but there's also games that're fucking great.
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Nov 24, 2014 1:32 AM #1273062
Hi, I play LoL on the NA Server. my user is Xayle, my main role is Jungle, and my main champ? Don't have one.



So what do you guys think of the new preseason jungle? Better or worse?
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Nov 24, 2014 3:54 AM #1273164
Better.
So much fucking better. New jungle, Lee sin can't do shit.
Which means I reign supreme once more...cept against udyr...
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Nov 24, 2014 8:04 AM #1273211
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Better.
So much fucking better. New jungle, Lee sin can't do shit.
Which means I reign supreme once more...cept against udyr...


Udyr and shyvana are ridiculous now. I tried khazix and you basically have to get trailblazer if you dont want to back every 4 seconds.

I also think khas still pretty broken despite his nerfs. So much utility and different viable build paths it's ridiculous. But he's pretty strictly jungle now, so that kind of sucked.
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Nov 24, 2014 5:56 PM #1273345
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Udyr and shyvana are ridiculous now. I tried khazix and you basically have to get trailblazer if you dont want to back every 4 seconds.

I also think khas still pretty broken despite his nerfs. So much utility and different viable build paths it's ridiculous. But he's pretty strictly jungle now, so that kind of sucked.

Oh man, you will be backing like a motherfucker if you don't get the trail blazer. But the Stalker's blade is superior in the long run and makes ganking easier, or can allow you to last hit with smite. I had an ally player bitching at me, he was like, Kha! Why are you so far behind?! I told him Kha was so squishy that I had to back a lot early. But the same match ended like this.
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If you play well you can get a score like this, but you have to play insanely safe until level 6 when you can upgrade your jump and you're actually able to gank. Even then if you mess up you wont have your primary escape and can get discarded like a used condom. Also, Kha"zix almost needs kills, without a small boost to his gear he just doesn't have the punch he needs and until you get this jump you have to play extremely cautiously and even after you should be playing cautiously.
He's been nerfed into the ground time and time again, he's super frail, super risky and skill demanding. I don't agree that he's broken for these reasons. I do agree that he's strong, but as a jungler, champions like warwick are superior as they can much more easily handle the new jungle.
Saying he's broken is definitely hyperbolic.
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Nov 25, 2014 12:08 AM #1273408
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Oh man, you will be backing like a motherfucker if you don't get the trail blazer. But the Stalker's blade is superior in the long run and makes ganking easier, or can allow you to last hit with smite. I had an ally player bitching at me, he was like, Kha! Why are you so far behind?! I told him Kha was so squishy that I had to back a lot early. But the same match ended like this.
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If you play well you can get a score like this, but you have to play insanely safe until level 6 when you can upgrade your jump and you're actually able to gank. Even then if you mess up you wont have your primary escape and can get discarded like a used condom. Also, Kha"zix almost needs kills, without a small boost to his gear he just doesn't have the punch he needs and until you get this jump you have to play extremely cautiously and even after you should be playing cautiously.
He's been nerfed into the ground time and time again, he's super frail, super risky and skill demanding. I don't agree that he's broken for these reasons. I do agree that he's strong, but as a jungler, champions like warwick are superior as they can much more easily handle the new jungle.
Saying he's broken is definitely hyperbolic.


I almost always upgrade Q first. Makes you nuke mid and top with that ridiculous iso damage. If I'm behind I'll upgrade spikes for the mega slow though.

However, I have the guardian of the sands skin. And when you upgrade your ult it looks SUPER sick. So I do that for the lols. Upgraded ult invisibility makes you impossible to catch though. You get three casts and you're invis for 3 seconds? Plus your jump? late game it's hard to get caught and die that way. Makes for good split pushing too because even though you don't push towers that fast you still cant be caught easily and can duel most champs in a straight up 1v1 if you play it right.

I still think rengars damage is broken in comparison to khas though
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Nov 25, 2014 1:30 AM #1273429
Ah, I use Mecha Kha'Zix. I get the jump upgrade first usually, unless they're playing champs that lack escapes and the mecha wings look fucking sick. I also like the indicator that enemies are isolated, it's super easy to hear and see.

Just got out of two ugly games 7/8/11 and 12/12/11, the latter was especially brutal. It was about 48 minutes long and my mid game score was 1/5/3, but both games were defeats. Kind of had vision problems, started asking people to put down their wards and it started getting better.
Veir and I played a match and it was total rape, plus the sight from people using wards helped a lot. I was 3/0/5 but they surrendered once we got dragon. Kha being a late game champ, it was a little unsatisfying, but it's not like I can expect them to let me scale to late game HORRIFICALLY and just let me kill them for 20 minutes.

And yeah he can 1v1 a lot of champs, just not any with good cc.
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