doesnt anyone agree at least a little crawler buff, what do u guys think? if u think it should be buffed what about it should be buffed?

I think crawlers damage should be buffed

Didnt they buff it to 11 seconds?

I think that Chaos is fine as is. Buffing crawlers will likely make them OP.

What I think they should change to make it fairer is more long maps.

Or just remove castle and Halloween

Making more maps doesn't fix anything. It just makes more maps.

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Making more maps doesn't fix anything. It just makes more maps.

Which isn't a bad thing.

Never said it was, but adding more maps isn't a balance fix. It's more maps.

Well what specifically would balance the empires?

maybe you should try other strategys when playing on smaller maps? you don't have too do that same thing every time you know on everymap^^

The most balanced one are equal stats for both Order and Chaos... but we wouldn't accept it if Crawler move much slower but high attack damage.

Maybe give Crawlers an ability similar to Pack Mentality, HEAR ME OUT, but it only goes to a certain extent, maybe 1 and 1/2 bars of hp? (Slightly lower than a swordwrath) and before you say that's OP, remember that their still crawlers, which die even easier than Swordwrath, even w/ proper micro.

Well it's common knowledge that Order is slightly stronger than Chaos in OvC. (Yeah, chaos isn't OP to all you people whining about Pay-To-Win). I don't believe Chaos needs a crawler buff, crawlers are fairly solid, albeit they require some sick micro. I can't really point out any unit that really needs a buff from chaos, but in general Chaos suffers from lower DPS than Order.

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Well it's common knowledge that Order is slightly stronger than Chaos in OvC. (Yeah, chaos isn't OP to all you people whining about Pay-To-Win). I don't believe Chaos needs a crawler buff, crawlers are fairly solid, albeit they require some sick micro. I can't really point out any unit that really needs a buff from chaos, but in general Chaos suffers from lower DPS than Order.

Well, I would say that their Giants have a higher DPS than Order Giants due to their multi-hit. Also, Juggerknights do more damage than Speartons, so Juggerknights have a slightly higher DPS I think. Probably equal DPS though because the attack rate is slower.

Although, Deads have poison which is a large potential boost to DPS. Also, their regen makes a net reduction in their enemy's DPS. A small one, but it is there.

I think Chaos might be slightly weaker due to their lack of good early game units. I'm pretty sure some Archers can destroy Crawlers, especially with Swordwrath support. They could make Bombers slightly more viable by reducing their gold cost or build time. I mean, they're 75 gold for a one-off Magikill blast that is actually WEAKER than a Magikill blast, along with taking up population. I don't think their speed justifies this enough. I think bombers wouldn't mind a 50 gold cost or maybe even reducing their build time to 5 seconds, maybe. Maybe. It's their only choice for early game units.