The anti-vaccine movement has been growing over the the years. Many parents believe that vaccinations can cause developmental disorders in children, such as autism. This, however, has led to outbreaks of preventable diseases, like the measles.


I think that the movement doesn't have any real evidence behind it. The vaccinations COULD be causing developmental disorders, but we don't fully understand these conditions yet. So we can't say whether or not that is the cause.

What do you think?

Also, in Japan they stopped the MMR vaccinations and replaced it with single vaccines but autism continued to increase.
http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/vaccines/nommr.html
I'll be giving my kids shots.

Vaccines don't cause autism, it's a confirmed hoax and there isn't much to debate about it.

Not vaccinating your children should be made a crime.

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You obviously haven't done enough research.

Not vaccinating your children weakens the herd immunity. It puts other people who have not been vaccinated at risk, people with allergies, children that have not reach the appropriate age, etc.. If your child infects another person that was unable to get vaccinated YOU, as a parent, are responsible, and should be held accountable, for whatever damage the disease could cause the individual. Not to mention the effects it might have on your own child.

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You obviously haven't done enough research.

If you're insinuating that vaccines are bad, I don't know what to tell you. They do much more good than harm.

The fact that we can't tell what the hell he meant means he needs to reread the debate section rules. Posts like those are the reason this section became opt-in in the first place.

Side effects of vaccines are minute, and affect a very select few who might happen to be allergic to whatever goes in a vaccine.

Like Exilement said, this isn't debatable. What IS debatable is what should be done about people not giving vaccines to their children, which I had stated my opinion on.

it should definitely be criminalized. the right for a child to receive adequate and routine preventative care outweighs the right to threaten your child's health with your ignorance.

I should have my right to not want to be injected with crap. I'm not say they are completely terrible (depends on what part of world you are in anyway), but I'm pretty sure more than five in one day is ahem well.

EDIT: Also many parents out there have their own believes and principles, are you saying they should be charged and convicted for not wanting to break those principles due to past experiences?

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I should have my right to not want to be injected with crap. I'm not say they are completely terrible (depends on what part of world you are in anyway), but I'm pretty sure more than five in one day is ahem well.

EDIT: Also many parents out there have their own believes and principles, are you saying they should be charged and convicted for not wanting to break those principles due to past experiences?

Not wanting your child to have vaccines is not only just being stuck-up, but it's also cruel. Any parent who doesn't want their child to be vaccinated is just putting them at risk of getting the diseases the vaccines are preventing. Some parents out there do have their own beliefs, but does the fact they have kids mean their opinions should be listened to? No. Like just about anyone, parents can be stupid and not know what's best. By your logic, if I believe I should be allowed to torture and abuse my own children, the law should just let that fly because that's my belief as a parent of my child.

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I should have my right to not want to be injected with crap. I'm not say they are completely terrible (depends on what part of world you are in anyway), but I'm pretty sure more than five in one day is ahem well.

EDIT: Also many parents out there have their own believes and principles, are you saying they should be charged and convicted for not wanting to break those principles due to past experiences?

While I feel that respecting peoples religious preference is one thing is bad enough, indoctrination does not come close to the outright cruelty of not vaccinating their children. Doing so puts them at risk of measles, anthrax, rabies, whooping cough, polio, and so many other diseases. The number of scientific studies that show the success vaccines have had in the fight against disease prove that the risk of being vaccinated is outweight by far by the defense they provide you with. It takes only a few seconds of google-ing to see how much they stop so ignorance can not be an excuse.
Vaccines are one of, if not the most important advancement in medical science since its beginning, the effects of not partaking could be immense, not just for you or your children, but every other person that has not, for whatever reason, been vaccinated.

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I should have my right to not want to be injected with crap. I'm not say they are completely terrible (depends on what part of world you are in anyway), but I'm pretty sure more than five in one day is ahem well.

Then find a source to support your claims. Otherwise you're part of the ignorance I was talking about.

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EDIT: Also many parents out there have their own believes and principles, are you saying they should be charged and convicted for not wanting to break those principles due to past experiences?

Yes. The plural of anecdote isn't data, and the data behind vaccinations is overwhelmingly in their favor.

Some people are raw vegans by principle, but that doesn't make it an acceptable diet for a newborn and it doesn't excuse them of any wrongdoing when their child is severely malnourished because of it.

It's quite clear already in this discussion that vaccines are essential and shouldn't be ignored, but should they be paid for? With them being so essential and some even going as far to say they should be mandatory is pricing them then something that should be done?
Vaccines cost ridiculous amounts of money to make and the companies mostly won't make the things if they don't pay back themselves, so the company is going to want money either way, and although old vaccines get opened up legally after a while for all to make and sell at cheap prices that will never likely be for all vaccines. Should the government pay for people to take vaccines mandatoryly?

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It's quite clear already in this discussion that vaccines are essential and shouldn't be ignored, but should they be paid for? With them being so essential and some even going as far to say they should be mandatory is pricing them then something that should be done?
Vaccines cost ridiculous amounts of money to make and the companies mostly won't make the things if they don't pay back themselves, so the company is going to want money either way, and although old vaccines get opened up legally after a while for all to make and sell at cheap prices that will never likely be for all vaccines. Should the government pay for people to take vaccines mandatoryly?

This is one of the reasons why we need herd immunity. If all the people who can afford vaccines do take them, then there's a lower chance for whoever can't afford it to get sick.