Are deads becoming a more common strategy than eclipsors.

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Jun 13, 2014 2:26 AM #1205934
Since i came back from retirement, ive noticed more and more pros in replays using Deads + Juggers. Is this a coincidence or has the meta strategy actually become Deads + Juggers?
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Jun 13, 2014 2:33 AM #1205936
Actually, the Dead Jug meta has been from a long time ago. Since around... A year ago perhaps?
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Jun 13, 2014 2:59 AM #1205954
Since A few months after last year's wing nerf actually. Once people realized that wings weren't OP and that deads kill stuff the meta shifted
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Jun 13, 2014 3:36 AM #1205975
So it would be weird if i started doing eclipsors?
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Jun 13, 2014 4:35 AM #1205991
They're not bad units. Go for it. Just try to know when you should and shouldn't use them.
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Jun 13, 2014 3:33 PM #1206229
Actually Eclipsors are best vs Order and Elemental,i always use eclipsors in Long maps,but in short maps i use Deads.
With Eclipsors we can shot archers easliy.
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Jun 15, 2014 4:14 PM #1207197
Deads are just tough. Almost as tough as the JuggerKnights themselves, but they're also poisonous. Which, on top of being cheaper makes it debatable weather or not they're better than eclipsors. But still, can't beat a good Air-force very easily
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Jun 15, 2014 4:39 PM #1207210
Dead+Jug is arguably better than wing+jug. The former has poison, easy to mass, takes lower income. Deads themselves are tanks. The con to deads is that they're slow, can't kite. Meanwhile, the latter is airborne, fast, deals more DPS, easy to kite with. The con to them is that they take more income, dies easily.

So I'd say, the only way for Wing+Jugs to best dead+jug is using micro.
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Jun 15, 2014 6:52 PM #1207238
What about packs of crawlers?as long as they don't get slaughtered by the juggs, they can swarm the deads easily enough. and say your juggers charge to give them some time
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Jun 15, 2014 8:16 PM #1207262
Crawler mass in CvC? By the midgame all the opponent needs to do is make bombers and you can't do anything with them...
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Jun 15, 2014 9:48 PM #1207295
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Crawler mass in CvC? By the midgame all the opponent needs to do is make bombers and you can't do anything with them...


Might pull off taking them out with your eclipsors.
But I don't mean a mass, just like 12 of them
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Jun 15, 2014 11:05 PM #1207314
12 seems to be a bit too little to be of use.
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Jun 15, 2014 11:33 PM #1207324
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12 seems to be a bit too little to be of use.


their use is to walk past the juggerknights and kill the deads if they can. I don't have enough experience using Chaos, but I think a buffed pack can do that
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Jun 16, 2014 12:02 AM #1207337
It doesn't matter how many there are, one or two good blasts will make them all useless. Lol
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Jun 16, 2014 5:10 AM #1207435
You brought that up already.. I'm not denying that it would, but if they stop the zombies from poisoning my Juggerknights and in fact prevent them from getting bombed, then they have done their job. Also the eclipsors can cover them since they are air units