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Nov 26, 2012 4:28 AM #798564
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You're aware that the double bladed light saber is incredibly similar to the double bladed chinese jian sword. Which is a martial art based on dancing, right?
The problem with the sword itself is that you have to lead it from the hip and use full body motion. I've made one out of pvc pipe and pipe insulation/tape. You can't just swing the arms with it or when you swing forward the second blade hits you in the hip or the back.
Basically you always have to be either making a step, or making an extremely exaggerated back and hip motion with every attack.

Besides that, Obiwan and Qui gonn jin using their single blades doesn't resemble dancing at all.
I cannot be convinced that the choreography in return of the jedi is better. Especially the scene where luke is "letting his emotions get the best of him" and he's pounding away at vaders light saber.
The basics of sword fighting dictate that you don't aim for your opponents weapons, you throw attacks that are directed at the opponent himself.

Of course I will not dispute that episode 6 is a MUCH better movie than one, no doubts.


I don't know if George Lucas was going for that parallel with whatever fighting style you're talking about; I doubt he's capable of forming such a complex and intricate thought. Regardless, I wasn't seriously comparing them to dance moves, I was more being facetious and implying that the entire fight at the end was sterile and formulaic. This excerpt from an awesome 70 minute look at why Episode 1 is the dumbest movie ever made (which I highly recommend watching, 'cause it raises very good points and is funny) explains my issues very well.

I'm not saying Episode 6 had better choreography than Episode 1, in fact Episode 6 has barely any, and I think that's a good thing. The lack of choreography and grace really shows Luke's emotional meltdown, he's not being level headed. He's just wailing on Vader letting out his aggression. In Episode 1, especially after Qui-Gon dies, Obi-Wan's reaction doesn't seem genuine. It's difficult to feel invested or care about the events when it all just seems like pandering.
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Nov 26, 2012 4:39 AM #798573
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I don't know if George Lucas was going for that parallel with whatever fighting style you're talking about; I doubt he's capable of forming such a complex and intricate thought. Regardless, I wasn't seriously comparing them to dance moves, I was more being facetious and implying that the entire fight at the end was sterile and formulaic. This excerpt from an awesome 70 minute look at why Episode 1 is the dumbest movie ever made (which I highly recommend watching, 'cause it raises very good points and is funny) explains my issues very well.

I'm not saying Episode 6 had better choreography than Episode 1, in fact Episode 6 has barely any, and I think that's a good thing. The lack of choreography and grace really shows Luke's emotional meltdown, he's not being level headed. He's just wailing on Vader letting out his aggression. In Episode 1, especially after Qui-Gon dies, Obi-Wan's reaction doesn't seem genuine. It's difficult to feel invested or care about the events when it all just seems like pandering.


Well actually I think the style that they had darth maul fight with is a pretty accurate display of what that style would look like. "Hence the butterfly kick/saber slash." "which is what I thought you meant by dance moves."
I disagree that it wasn't a good fight. In fact I think it's one of the best. But alas, people like different things.

And I agree with the part about lukes melt down, he exploded with exasperation that had been building for three movies straight. Obiwan only really had one movie to work with, thus probably why you thought it was anti climactic in comparison.

I'll be sure to watch that.
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Nov 26, 2012 4:43 AM #798576
You should. I think you might change your opinion after watching it, because it really lays everything out on the table and puts it into perspective. I can understand though if you like it, it is well choreographed, I just don't think that it's right for the movie.
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Nov 26, 2012 4:47 AM #798579
I actually know a decent amount about the star wars lore and how the movie had been originally planned.

What urks me the most is the whole "midichlorian" thing. Where suddenly the force is measured by bacteria.

I mean, it's the force, it needed no explanation.
I don't consider it cannon.
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Nov 26, 2012 4:50 AM #798581
Hahaha, can't agree enough.
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Nov 26, 2012 4:52 AM #798582
And how Bacteria grants you prophecy, telekinesis and more is FUCKING BEYOND ME.
It's abundantly clear that the original intention was for the force to have no explanation.

George Lucas must have a crippling fear of money and success.
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Nov 26, 2012 5:06 AM #798590
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That's what i was thinking for my avatar. Can you make a smaller size,please?


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Nov 26, 2012 5:19 PM #798948
what do you guys think about my new avatar !?
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Nov 26, 2012 8:29 PM #799037
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what do you guys think about my new avatar !?


Personally I hate it. The colors are terrible
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Nov 26, 2012 8:44 PM #799040
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Personally I hate it. The colors are terrible


pretty much this
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Nov 26, 2012 8:59 PM #799052
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pretty much this


And what's the point...
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Nov 26, 2012 9:38 PM #799058
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I think your avatar is the problem with why people don't like you
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Nov 26, 2012 9:39 PM #799060
Why does lethal 2 get to double post and I don't?
That's bull shit, nigga.
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Nov 26, 2012 10:04 PM #799084
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Why does lethal 2 get to double post and I don't?
That's bull shit, nigga.


it's not that he gets to double post, it's that deleting the post wouldn't be worth it... I'd imagine.
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Nov 26, 2012 10:06 PM #799087
He didn't get infracted.
I'm all butt mad, that really rambles my johnnies.
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