I tried to explain that if I'm being attacked by ANYONE I will use force to get it to stop if I'm all out of options, but the people that didn't agree with me felt pretty passionately that I was a scumbag for thinking that
If he was trying to diffuse the situation, there were probably better options than punching her in the face.
Not that she's not at fault for putting him in that situation to begin with, but I wouldn't defend a violent reaction to violence unless it was absolutely necessary.
The debate wasn't specifically about what he did. Though I don't blame him because tensions were high and getting drenched with beer and slapped would make anyone pretty fucking mad, our conversation was more generalized. For instance, if someone is hitting me, no matter what gender they are, trying to fight me, I will probably back away to avoid confrontation. If they keep coming at me and will not stop, then I have no choice but to neutralize the situation by making the other party incapable of assaulting me. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, regardless of gender. It's self-defense.
I think anyone should expect consequences if they're going to be antagonistic. A woman should not expect no repercussions in a situation where if a male was doing it they'd start a fight. Including using words. Like if I walked up to some dude in a bar and called him a pussy, I could reasonably expect to get punched.
If you walked in to a bar and called someone a pussy, and he punched you, I'd still think that the guy who punched you was an ass, because responding to words (of someone who might be drunk too, since it's a bar) with violence is unnecessary. Now, if you were to harass the guy, constantly following him and insulting him, then that'd probably justify him shutting you up with a punch, in case nothing else worked.
I would forcibly push them off me or something along those lines. Would never actually hit a girl (unless in a situation where I am legitimately being injured by them).
Yes I'm not justifying the act of violence itself, just the expectations. I agree that it's an overreaction if I got punched for calling someone a pussy, that's not my point at all. My point is that should that happen, it shouldn't matter what gender either party is. I find people who think women shouldn't be hit ever period are the ones being sexist. If I want equal treatment regardless of person, that's less sexist than someone who thinks that women are weaker and thus shouldn't be involved in violence. I think there are plenty of women who could easily kick my ass but that wouldn't stop me from engaging in a brawl with them if the situation called for it.
EDIT: If it's not clear I don't think it's okay to smack around your girlfriend or whatever, I'm not justifying unnecessary violence or violence in general.
I think the majority of girls would have enough of a head on them to realize if they're acting like wankers they'll probably, maybe, deserve what they get. Reading back, those lovely ladies don't sound like the most sophisticated of types.
I'm one of those "just post in the RHG section" guys, but I'm interested on this topic. I agree with Jeff, and I want to ask people who won't hit a girl no matter what a question:
If a boy who is weaker than your starts to bother you and you can't stand it, would you hit him? I mean, I always thought boys don't hit girls because they consider girls weaker, so it wouldn't be "fair"...
But I'm good fighting with words, since I can't defend myself with punches I rather to fight psychologically, a single word can hurt way more than a punch itself.
But I'm good fighting with words, since I can't defend myself with punches I rather to fight psychologically, a single word can hurt way more than a punch itself.
Part in bold kinda sounded like lyrics to a song/rap. lol
So last night I was at a party and some dude punched out this mouthy chick who was arguing with him, and escalated it to the point where she felt it necessary to throw her drink in his face and slap him repeatedly. I saw the whole thing, he only punched her as she was slapping him, probably to get her to stop. I think she got knocked out for a few moments but I can't be certain 'cause as soon as he did it a bunch of white knight males started getting in his face, and then some other guys got between them to stop the fighting, so I was focused on that. The whole time this chick's trashy friends are annoyingly trying to back her up by just repeating what she said and adding "uh huh" or "yeayuh" to it ("you is just a faggot ass bitch" "yeayuh, a faggot ass bitch uh huh"), and they were also inviting him to "do something about it". Then when he did something about it they changed to screaming and "YOU CAN'T HIT HER SHE'S A WOMAN".
The whole thing sparked an apparently heated debate after about whether it's appropriate to ever strike a woman. My opinion that I don't see gender when someone is up in my face and attacking me was apparently unpopular. I tried to explain that if I'm being attacked by ANYONE I will use force to get it to stop if I'm all out of options, but the people that didn't agree with me felt pretty passionately that I was a scumbag for thinking that. I don't understand this idea that women are untouchable. A lot of trashy women walk around saying and doing what they want as if their gender absolves them of any responsibility or potential consequences for their actions, which I think is bullshit.
Pretty good example, given the similarity of the situations.
-Bus driver and girl argue about something
-Girl gets mad and tries to use physical force
-Bus driver shoryukens her jaw to high heaven
-Quotes "you wanna be a man? I'll treat you like a man".
Now there are extents on which you should actually result to violence, but she was asking for it, and went ahead to physically assault him with the pretentious and mythical thought in her head "Men shouldn't hit women, regardless of the situation".
