Pff don't worry, unlike those cheesers out there, I actually go the heavy knight route with the mastodon halberd. Being a boulder on legs doesn't look awesome if you have a tiny weapon to go along with it. (RIP broadsword)

Well, I was just in a Christian chat for a little over 3 hours. After roughly an hour of observation, I decided to initiate in some conversation. Interestingly enough, it seems that my not being a Christian triggered some sort of chain reaction, as the more devouts began trying to convert me (aside from one, who interestingly enough said I was too far gone and was surrounded by the Spirit of Frivolous (???)), the more moderates joked around alongside me, and then there was a small group that conversed about other things in the meantime.

It was fun, and I think I got under their skin a bit. Especially when I asked about Satan being the "King of Liars," and the only example they could provide of him arguably lying was when he said "You won't die from eating this fruit." Considering the fruit didn't kill Adam or Eve, there's no way to verify if they'd live or die anyways if they hadn't eaten the fruit, and God didn't immediately smite them but instead exiled them, it can be seriously debated whether or not that was an actual lie. An argument they didn't seem to want to have.

I'm a bit of an asshole, and I accept this about myself.

If I went into a christian chat I wouldn't outwards state my atheism, I'd probably just want to learn about stuff. Going into a Christian chat and saying "I'm atheist lol" just seems like a dick move.

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If I went into a christian chat I wouldn't outwards state my atheism, I'd probably just want to learn about stuff. Going into a Christian chat and saying "I'm atheist lol" just seems like a dick move.

What's interesting is, I'm not an atheist, and I didn't outright state it. I was asked, while talking about a scripture posted, what denomination I belonged to, to which I honestly replied none, as I'm not a Christian, though I believe in the potential of a higher being outside of our knowledge that doesn't necessarily conform to the classic interpretation of "God."

They seemed to take exception to that.

Also, do note that I said I simply watched their discussion for an hour. They were kinda assholes themselves.

I think by frivolous he probably means unconcerned, with hell that is.

It's crazy how not being constantly terrified of illogical illusions of afterlife torture could be a huge weight lifted from people.

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What's interesting is, I'm not an atheist, and I didn't outright state it. I was asked, while talking about a scripture posted, what denomination I belonged to, to which I honestly replied none, as I'm not a Christian, though I believe in the potential of a higher being outside of our knowledge that doesn't necessarily conform to the classic interpretation of "God."

They seemed to take exception to that.

It's sort of like how I'll debate atheists and they'll assume I'm religious.

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I think by frivolous he probably means unconcerned, with hell that is.

I was told bluntly that I was surrounded by a spirit, as many are, that prevented me from taking God seriously, or those who didn't believe in him (which, when I brought this to his attention, he corrected to believed in him, and used this as proof that I had the Spirit of Frivolous around me).

Why are you wasting time on Christian chat anyway? Do you also go on Wicca Anonymous and the Hare Krishna Forums?

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Why are you wasting time on Christian chat anyway? Do you also go on Wicca Anonymous and the Hare Krishna Forums?

Well, I was watching videos on Feminism and Gender Studies on YouTube, so I was initially looking for a Feminist Chat Room, to see what kind of conversations were had. Somehow, ended up in a Christian Chat Room that was empty, so I decided to look to see if anyone of that faith was still angry over the Gay Marriage bill that passed.

A few still are, by the way, but it seems that most moderates are pretty alright with it.

I might look into going into other religious chats just to see what they're like, maybe learn more about the faiths. It'll be interesting.

The worst way to learn about a religion is to join a chat group about it, in my opinion. Think about it. Does the average Christian or Muslim or Jew or Buddhist or Hindu sit around and talk about their religion online? Only the kooks actually go to a chat room to discuss how great their faith is. You might get a skewered version of it if you go visit a chat room.

Oh, certainly, but you can only get the principles and general outlines of a religion by studying their holy texts and research on them. This won't speak for the fanatics, the moderates, the nonchalant who follow in name only. Only through interacting with them directly can you get a feel for how a religion actually is in the real world. Of course, it isn't likely it'll be the best sample to work from, and I admit that I may learn nothing more than what I could get from just reading the books they believe in. But hey, talking to people about a very dusty old book is more interesting than just reading the book in my opinion. Maybe my own views are skewed.

I guess as long as you're aware that these are not reflections OF the religion but rather a version of a very skewered group, its all good.

I mean, hey, most Christians don't actually know all that much about their religion aside from being able to quote scriptures, yet you have to look at those people to understand the religion as well as viewing what formed the religion and its spread. If you don't look at the people in a religion, are you really, honestly understanding it? You can't really understand one side without understanding the other, if you want to try to view them objectively. If that all makes sense. Sometimes my thoughts and the processes to reach them are hard to properly articulate, something which is a continuous process of rectification, and it can cause a lot of misunderstandings or me coming across as "not getting it/a misunderstanding, insensitive ass."

Religion aside, the Bible is a pretty well written and compelling story
I would never bother reading the whole thing front to back, but there's some genuinely interesting passages I've stumbled upon while taking a look at it out of curiosity and some wild shit goes down

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Religion aside, the Bible is a pretty well written and compelling story
I would never bother reading the whole thing front to back, but there's some genuinely interesting passages I've stumbled upon while taking a look at it out of curiosity and some wild shit goes down

I've actually read the bible cover to cover before. I can't remember which version, I think it was King Henry or something? It really does have a major tonal shift from Old Testament to New Testament that nobody can deny, which can be viewed as God being an imperfect being that's constantly growing, but saying that kinda nullifies his position as an ultimate good and ultimate sage with no faults. Honestly, if Christianity said God was flawed, I'd feel a lot more receptive towards it.

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Religion aside, the Bible is a pretty well written and compelling story
I would never bother reading the whole thing front to back, but there's some genuinely interesting passages I've stumbled upon while taking a look at it out of curiosity and some wild shit goes down

Not to mention ancient books tend to be filled with great knowledge. Esoteric knowledge? Yes. But "we" inhabitants of stickpage tend to be eccentric.

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Honestly, if Christianity said God was flawed, I'd feel a lot more receptive towards it.

That's blasphemy.