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Justice is served for Steve Irwin. You've done good, Nish :')

All that other stuff is really damn interesting. Growing up in a place like Canada I can't imagine actually experiencing war and terrible stuff like that.

Growing up in 'murica, a country with bloody history I can imagine really fucked up war. But only if it's on the other side of the planet away from me.

I wasn't being hostile, exilement :(

Saying passive aggressive things about how logic offends people could make them want to participate in a dick measuring contest though.


I'll post pics soon.

I just hope that feeling that there's more to me than just a physical body is not some illusion caused by my consciousness. That would blow.

It sure would.... it sure would.

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Probably more of an illusion caused by your religious upbringing.

What's so uncomfortable about the idea that you're just a physical body? Not to make it sound like it's an easy thing to accept, just asking why it isn't for you personally.

I don't think I've made it very clear or brought it up much but despite being in a religious community I personally am no longer religious. I don't talk about it much though and keep it to myself because of all the problems that would arise with that.

Either way. I'm uncomfortable about being just a physical body because of missing out. I feel like there's so much to see and do and experience that it would be impossible to do it all in a lifetime. You can do a lot yes, but definitely not everything. I don't have a specific idea of what I'd like to happen after death since you can't prove anything, but if there were I'd imagine it I would feel like "me", but in a different "form". I don't know how to put it in words exactly but I think the point is clear.

Also not being able to know whether or not there's something after life really sparks my curiosity.

Exilement bitch respond to my comment about how awesome gardening is you slut.

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Yes Jutsu it was fucking delicious. It tastes like fish but it has more cartilege so you can just chomp through the whole damn thing.

Devour, haha yes it was the same one that got Irwin. I am the Charles Bronson of fish-eaters. Revenge, yo.

War sucks.

Being a physical body with no soul is awesome. Having limited time is awesome. Why? Because it forces you to make every second count. To learn everything you can. To look at everything in wonder. A belief in life-after-death frequently leads to life being taken for granted.

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Speaking of hypothetical situations, here's a neat one that I really can't think of an answer to. Would you go through a week of really vicious torture (burning, flaying, etc while being kept alive) if you could have one wish granted at the end of it? Excluding any loopholes that allow you to have more than one wish obviously

like it seems like it would be totally worth it, but going through that week would be too much for me

It really depends on the kind of torture, and the consistency it's applied. Also it depends on whether or not this is a sort of hypothetical torture, that once it's over, will be as if it never happened, and your body won't be damaged whatsoever. Of course, something like say 168 hours of 24/7 having your entire body immolated without having your skin/nerve endings ever burn away, would probably drive you beyond insanity. It might be tempting to think that that 1 wish would be worth it in the end, but your mind will likely never recover. After it all, you might find yourself using your wish to permanently forget the last week.

An interesting example that comes to mind was the episode in Naruto where Kakashi gets trapped in Itachi's genjutsu, and is stabbed continuously for what I think was an entire year.

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I don't think I've made it very clear or brought it up much but despite being in a religious community I personally am no longer religious. I don't talk about it much though and keep it to myself because of all the problems that would arise with that.

Either way. I'm uncomfortable about being just a physical body because of missing out. I feel like there's so much to see and do and experience that it would be impossible to do it all in a lifetime. You can do a lot yes, but definitely not everything. I don't have a specific idea of what I'd like to happen after death since you can't prove anything, but if there were I'd imagine it I would feel like "me", but in a different "form". I don't know how to put it in words exactly but I think the point is clear.

Also not being able to know whether or not there's something after life really sparks my curiosity.

What made you change your mind?

What if your wish was to get a billion wishes, and the first of those billion wishes was to go back in time and retroactively remove your torture from having ever happened? So technically, you'd never be tortured. You'd just SEE a giant drill making its way to your penis, and then your past self will suddenly appear and make it all disappear.

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It really depends on the kind of torture, and the consistency it's applied. Also it depends on whether or not this is a sort of hypothetical torture, that once it's over, will be as if it never happened, and your body won't be damaged whatsoever. Of course, something like say 168 hours of 24/7 having your entire body immolated without having your skin/nerve endings ever burn away, would probably drive you beyond insanity. It might be tempting to think that that 1 wish would be worth it in the end, but your mind will likely never recover. After it all, you might find yourself using your wish to permanently forget the last week.

An interesting example that comes to mind was the episode in Naruto where Kakashi gets trapped in Itachi's genjutsu, and is stabbed continuously for what I think was an entire year.

It was actually 72 hours not an entire year.

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What if your wish was to get a billion wishes, and the first of those billion wishes was to go back in time and retroactively remove your torture from having ever happened? So technically, you'd never be tortured. You'd just SEE a giant drill making its way to your penis, and then your past self will suddenly appear and make it all disappear.

Devour specifically said no loopholes. Also you just made a paradox.

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Devour specifically said no loopholes. Also you just made a paradox.

a) Then Wish#1 would be to wish Devour said YES to loopholes.

b) The concept of granting magical wishes is beyond logic and reason, hence the term paradox would not apply, as wish-granting itself is essentially making the impossible possible.

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What made you change your mind?

I've been having doubts since a year and a half. They just kept increasing. I did a lot of thinking and reading. Learned new things. Talked to people and had debates. I just came to the conclusion that you can't prove and disprove anything. You can't claim anything is absolute. It's all relative to perspective and situations. That's just a super compressed idea of what I thought and went through.

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I just came to the conclusion that you can't prove and disprove anything.

I can conclusively prove that 2+2 is 4.

Please don't respond with something like "that depends on your definition of 2".

Unless you radically change the meaning of certain words and values, there are some things in the world that can be proved and disproved.

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I can conclusively prove that 2+2 is 4.

I was trying to compress my idea into short words. It's obviously a lot more complicated than the meaning you're retorting to here.

Also part of my point was that one could always be wrong, therefore I could be wrong as well. So you can't take a certain way of life as an absolute. I'll just try to be the best I can be and be happy.

I know. I was just clarifying as to whether it was a mis-phrasing in your compression or if thats what you believe.