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Sep 14, 2015 5:51 PM #1403540
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EDIT: Also, it looks like this forum has died off considerably.


This always comes up this time each year lol

It's September, site activity historically drops due to summer ending and people adjusting to the school year. Things will pick back up.
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Sep 14, 2015 6:42 PM #1403542
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wow that is such a major switch. Why accounting? I'm assuming for the easy dosh?

I've found from doing private security that I don't have the patience to deal with certain kinds of behaviors. I'd end up getting written up from excessive force pretty often. I originally changed to programming, but decided if I'm going to stick myself into an office job, I might as well do something less stressful (having to constantly learn new languages and tech and whatnot. I'm doing accounting because I'm pretty good at math and they make good money.
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Sep 14, 2015 9:45 PM #1403562
The math in accounting is actually pretty easy. Like, adding accounts, multiplying rates, getting present values, allocating costs, etc are all pretty methodical and don't really require you to be good at math. What's really challenging about accounting to me is interpreting each accounts and whether or not they can be added to find a certain value. Like figuring out whether its appropriate to add freight insurance to the initial cost of an equipment, shit like that.
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Sep 14, 2015 9:58 PM #1403570
Well yeah accounting in the sense of just balance sheets for small/medium size businesses. But I imagine when you get to the level where you might have to do things like factor in the time depreciation of money into your P&L or the triggers for certain taxes, the math gets a bit harder.
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Sep 14, 2015 10:27 PM #1403573
Money doesn't really depreciate, depreciation is for property, plant, and equipment mostly. And it doesn't really affect your P&L accounting-wise, it just lowers the values of your assets over time. Even then, depreciation doesn't require much math. You'll need your calculator to add huge amounts and multiply the number of weeks/months/years for sure, but it's not nearly as complex as the maths of other fields. Like I said, it's not the math itself that's hard, but choosing which ones to incorporate in your solutions that makes it hard.
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Sep 14, 2015 11:02 PM #1403582
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Money doesn't really depreciate, depreciation is for property, plant, and equipment mostly.

lmao what are you talking about
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Sep 14, 2015 11:06 PM #1403583
Oh god, more accounting talk. I managed to not get a headache in class, but now I've gotta deal with it here as well? You guys are evil.
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Sep 14, 2015 11:36 PM #1403588
Our accounting class, managerial and cost accounting, are ridiculously hard. It has the concepts of financial accounting but the data has to be interpreted to allow wise decision making(Predetermined overheard rate, simple linear regression).

Just imagine accounting but with statistics. This is what Kieran was probably talking about.
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Sep 14, 2015 11:37 PM #1403589
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Our accounting class, managerial and cost accounting, are ridiculously hard. It has the concepts of financial accounting but the data has to be interpreted to allow wise decision making(Predetermined overheard rate, simple linear regression).

Just imagine accounting but with statistics.


Nope. Nuh-uh. Fuck it, not happening.
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Sep 15, 2015 12:03 AM #1403596
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The math in accounting is actually pretty easy. Like, adding accounts, multiplying rates, getting present values, allocating costs, etc are all pretty methodical and don't really require you to be good at math. What's really challenging about accounting to me is interpreting each accounts and whether or not they can be added to find a certain value. Like figuring out whether its appropriate to add freight insurance to the initial cost of an equipment, shit like that.


In my secondary school (high school, roughly, for Americans) there were only two people who didn't go on to university (college) (it was quite a good school, for which I make no apologies). One of them became an accountant, and he was the guy who hosted our poker nights for the next four years because he was the only one of us who had enough money for a big enough place. Accountancy is a solid career path which requires much less of you than you might expect.


Anyway, hi guys. I'm a bit drunk and I was missing you all so I thought I'd stop by. I always used to be annoyed by people who'd come back and ask "what's been going on" because I'd be like "read it yourself you lazy dick," but now that it's me I understand how much there is to look through. So what's been going on?
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Sep 15, 2015 12:46 AM #1403601
We were discussing if robots would take over the world if they acquired sentience. I think it's not realistic because you'd literally have to program them to have traits like revenge and deception, and the desire to want more than what they already have. No one would do that :u

Also its nice to see you again. It's always a good time being here, but you also haven't missed a lot worth mentioning. Things are largely the same as ever.
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Sep 15, 2015 12:50 AM #1403602
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We were discussing if robots would take over the world if they acquired sentience. I think it's not realistic because you'd literally have to program them to have traits like revenge and deception, and the desire to want more than what they already have. No one would do that :u


Very true. They wouldn't be able to build other copies of themselves or anything either unless they were programmed to do that. So unless you could create a learning robot, (like, truly learning like a human) then they wouldn't be able to do much.
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Sep 15, 2015 1:03 AM #1403610
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We were discussing if robots would take over the world if they acquired sentience. I think it's not realistic because you'd literally have to program them to have traits like revenge and deception, and the desire to want more than what they already have. No one would do that :u

Also its nice to see you again. It's always a good time being here, but you also haven't missed a lot worth mentioning. Things are largely the same as ever.


Depends on what we mean by "robot". If it's artificial intelligence which is connected to the internet and able to reprogramme itself to make itself smarter then we might be in trouble. If it's isolated to a body which we built then, from what I've seen of robots, we're safe if we stand on the other side of a gravel path.
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Sep 15, 2015 1:04 AM #1403612
If you programed a self learning AI it could probably lwarn those things on it's own, but being an AI it would probably deduce that they were impractical emotions. The main theme in most "robots take over the world" things is that robots deduce that human beings are inheremtly self destructive, inefficient and unnecessary though, and that is probably an accurate prediction of a conclusuon a self learning, unfeeling and perfectly logical machine would come to
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Sep 15, 2015 1:25 AM #1403616
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Depends on what we mean by "robot". If it's artificial intelligence which is connected to the internet and able to reprogramme itself to make itself smarter then we might be in trouble. If it's isolated to a body which we built then, from what I've seen of robots, we're safe if we stand on the other side of a gravel path.


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If you programed a self learning AI it could probably lwarn those things on it's own, but being an AI it would probably deduce that they were impractical emotions. The main theme in most "robots take over the world" things is that robots deduce that human beings are inheremtly self destructive, inefficient and unnecessary though, and that is probably an accurate prediction of a conclusuon a self learning, unfeeling and perfectly logical machine would come to

I think a super-intelligent AI wouldn't think in ultimatiums, myself. As mundane as we are, our human minds see the potential in robots and work to improve them, among every other aspect of life that we build upon. I think a sentient AI would know how well humans learn and grow, and they could very well improve us in the same manner that we improve our own technology. Taking what it already has and making it better would be a lot more efficient and beneficial than waging global war and destroying massive resources and infrastructure.
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