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Sep 15, 2015 2:39 PM #1403709
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lmao what are you talking about


Sorry if I'm bringing back old discussion but I have to answer this or else I will be disowned by my peers

A fundamental assumption of accounting is to assume that the value of currency you're working in is stable and constant (the purchasing power of money from 20 years ago is assumed to be the same today). In reality, Economics will tell you that inflation and depression and stuff like that devalues money, but in Accounting that is not the case. There would be way too much adjustments to be made if the accounting policy follows the value of money. Like literally everything will have to be constantly revalued if money can be depreciated. This is also why depreciation is deducted to cost (how much you bought it for) instead of the fair market value (how much you can get out of it if you sold it today) of things to get the carrying value (how much the asset is in the books of the organization).

Unless you mean money depreciates in some other way?
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Sep 15, 2015 3:13 PM #1403720
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Sorry if I'm bringing back old discussion but I have to answer this or else I will be disowned by my peers

A fundamental assumption of accounting is to assume that the value of currency you're working in is stable and constant (the purchasing power of money from 20 years ago is assumed to be the same today). In reality, Economics will tell you that inflation and depression and stuff like that devalues money, but in Accounting that is not the case. There would be way too much adjustments to be made if the accounting policy follows the value of money. Like literally everything will have to be constantly revalued if money can be depreciated. This is also why depreciation is deducted to cost (how much you bought it for) instead of the fair market value (how much you can get out of it if you sold it today) of things to get the carrying value (how much the asset is in the books of the organization).

Unless you mean money depreciates in some other way?

Wtf.

I thought you were bad at accounting.
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Sep 15, 2015 4:28 PM #1403734
Ah right, you're talking about true accounting and not finance in general. Makes sense bruh
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Sep 15, 2015 5:49 PM #1403741
I took one accounting course and felt I couldn't really handle all the variables, even if the math was simple . Or rather, I just couldn't really get interested in it even though I know its important and is considered a pretty good job to get into. I'm just too simple for that kind of stuff I guess. Also the business major at my school is impacted, so even actually getting the major is super competitive.
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Sep 15, 2015 5:54 PM #1403743
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the community felt pretty tight knit and I liked the atmosphere it gave out compared to now on how majority is filled with rules that are actually being implemented


Just wanna point this out because I feel some people pass judgement without knowing all the information. FA didn't need as many rules because the community was tight knit. Stone and I never felt the need to hammer complex rules down people's throats because the only time rules were even needed were when new members would join the community. Once they got used to how things were they became a part of us and rarely did we need to remind them of the rules. When we took over here we were immediately dealing with an entirely different beast where the same style of administration wasn't working. You have to understand that SP was pretty much in disarray administratively when we took over, so we were faced with transplanting a small ordered community into a bigger one that wasn't. We couldn't expect the SP members to "just get it" like the FA members would. We felt it was necessary to tighten the rules in order to make sure everyone was on the same page and not guessing at what we would find acceptable, as the point was to revitalize SP with a more active animation community. This also applied to the moderators to make sure they were consistent, because when the rules are enforced inconsistently it delivers a mixed message and we needed everyone on the same page. That served it's purpose well and in the last year or so I've been taking steps back to relax certain rules which no longer needed to be so strict.

However, clarifying the rules is still an important part of making sure everyone is treated fairly, as it's still an ongoing issue that we're actively working on. Even as recently as yesterday I received a complaint about fairness on the forums, so I know it's still an area we need to improve in and I'm still seeing what works best. There are no easy answers. The point of clarifying the rules is to close loopholes, and the clarifications generally come as a result of these loopholes being abused. Not the other way around. Zed hasn't been active here in a while so I don't think it would have been fair for him to bring that argument up and I appreciate him recognizing that. He doesn't have any insight into how things have been behind the scenes and thus doesn't have the perspective necessary to make an informed judgement, he can only make assumptions and guess what he thinks would work. Please keep this in mind.

I don't think my healthy distrust in authority figures is a bad thing as he suggests since I like to lead by example by being reasonably transparent and not being unethical or corrupt. Through experience I personally believe that authority can and does corrupt too easily, and I can back this up with 12+ years of examples just from the stick animation community so I generally prefer to keep a respectful eye on the mods as they're the ones actually carrying out the brunt of the work. I value and trust each of them a significant amount (more than I think I get credit for but my public image is not that important to me as long as things are running well) but I still maintain a reasonable awareness that any of them could abuse that trust if they wanted. That doesn't mean I think they are going to or expect them to, it just means I have protections in place just in case and I need to be able to react quickly for the community's sake. I actually do have hard data on how effective different administrative styles are as I have done this song and dance for a long time and I will make changes to find better ways of doing things. Each time I do I pay very close attention to the impact it has on a number of things and if it doesn't work then I accept the loss and draw up a new plan.

The thing is that no two communities are the same, so there really isn't a "one size fits all" solution that I can just blanket across and make everyone content. We have a target demographic we're aiming for and so to reach them we keep altering our approach until we hit a sweet spot that let's us reach the widest audience. That's where we are heading at the moment now that the resources are available. The administration seems to be holding up the demographic we want, and now we're rebuilding the site to attract more of that demographic. When the new site launches there will be an increase in new members so it's more important than ever to make sure we're all on the same page. We've tried the "golen rule" style of administration before and it just doesn't work going in to what we have planned. SP needs to succeed as a website before it will succeed as a community, if we ever hit a point where relaxed leadership would be a benefit then you can bet I'll be the first to implement it. Until then I think we're in a good space and I feel confident about our direction. I am extremely excited about the future of SP, sticking around here will be worth it for those that enjoyed what this community and FA's community once was.
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Sep 15, 2015 8:19 PM #1403754
it's all lies, jeff makes Bill O'Reilly look like boss of the year. ai might enjoy the attention but the rest of us sure as hell don't.
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Sep 15, 2015 8:45 PM #1403757
you get back in your god damn hole
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Sep 15, 2015 9:01 PM #1403758
Just got off work. Yeah, feeling good. New schedule is looking kinda wonky right now, but hey, if it sticks this way the rest of the season, I won't really complain. For now. Gotta see how it goes before I can complain, ya know?


Also, I'm really loving my new set. It's fun.
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Sep 15, 2015 10:17 PM #1403768
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Just got off work. Yeah, feeling good. New schedule is looking kinda wonky right now, but hey, if it sticks this way the rest of the season, I won't really complain. For now. Gotta see how it goes before I can complain, ya know?

Also, I'm really loving my new set. It's fun.

Is it Wadanohara and the great blue sea?
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Sep 15, 2015 10:47 PM #1403771
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Is it Wadanohara and the great blue sea?


He's from Ice Scream, but because of the creators, yes, he shows up in Wadanohara and the Great Blue Sea as a minor character. Taking a stroll from his usual sea, you see.
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Sep 16, 2015 4:20 AM #1403830
HEY GUYS LETS HAVE TOPIC :33
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Sep 16, 2015 5:17 AM #1403838
[spoiler=]Animation.[/spoiler]

What are you fine fellows working on, if anything?
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Sep 16, 2015 5:26 AM #1403839
Check out the stickpage bb code then, and nope not working on anything cuz school
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Sep 16, 2015 6:49 AM #1403845
It should be spoiler= in the first set of brackets
And I'm doing a few things right now, mostly non stick stuff because learning
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Sep 16, 2015 8:42 AM #1403850
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Just got off work.

Sheit, we both know a pimp is always workin' now, c'mon.