Quote from Vorpal

I agree Americans should be allowed to have fire arms to defend their land from invasion, our government and mass shootings.
But for once would someone actually skin a smoke wagon to STOP a mass shooting?

I'm not idiotic enough to think by simply passing laws prohibiting the ownership of firearms that they'll be going anywhere either, of course. Fire arms are too prolific in America already. Like what we pass a law and POOF all the guns vanish into the air? Hell naw.

So then what do we do? If we choose in favor of our freedom and right to bear arms, then we seem to be acquiescing to the occasional rampage. If we choose against our right to bear arms the outcome seems to be the same, so what do we do?

This is why I've been saying for years, the problem isn't legal, it's social.
It's societal.

What proof do I have?
Sure enough I log onto social networking today and what do I see? Millions of ignorant fucking Americans missing the point entirely and continuing to argue for or against, guns, inanimate fucking objects. Because someone has to be right, but neither side is.

We should be asking ourselves about the psychopaths holding the guns *most of em home grown* and what we can do to prevent that.
The occasional psycho seems inevitable, I'm sure every country has a murderer. But I believe that if we get a good start now, watching our kids, making sure they grow up right and get the help they need to have a future that isn't all doom and gloom, a future that isn't so hate filled and desperate. Teach them to look forward to the future and connect them to the world.

Maybe then we'll have less of these detached assholes going on rampages, willing to throw away their life and the lives of dozens of other citizens.

Quote from theTDguy

Oh I didn't see your ''rant'' there Vorpal. I didn't refresh the page for quite some time. I guess you are right. This is a kind of topic in which every side has reasonable arguments. Unfortunately, this is also one of the topics that I really can't have an opinion on.

Quote from Bluvarth

I was listening to NPR, and they were talking about something similar. They're saying that there's a lot of issues with the second generation immigrants, who are becoming more dislodged from society, not being able to associate with their parents' countries or their current one. Supposedly, this brings them to a very unstable area, socially. Apparently this tends to drive some off the edge, if you catch my drift.

Quote from Vorpal

That's definitely a facet of it, my mothers husband is half Native American. The Natives called him "Half calf" and the whites called him "Prairie nigger." He never got to resonate with his own culture or american culture growing up on the reservations.
I was thinking more in broad terms though, something effecting all of us not just foreigners.

Or at least I believe it's on a larger scale, based on how many of our shooters are born and raised on our soil.

Quote from Vorpal

Honestly I don't remember ants being that bad. But I know what you mean about shitty animated flicks designed to exploit children.

Quote from Bluvarth

Yeah, my personal theory is that we've run out of things to do. I don't mean casually, it's just that I think those crazies who go shoot up a place don't get the proper stimuli from normal day-to-day things anymore. I think we're exposed to so much material now, that nothing is exciting or new to people.

Quote from theTDguy

Oh no. No, no. You don't understand. THIS is the abomination I'm talking about:


I advise you to mute the video. Not that it is bad, but I don't know if it's good either because I muted it.

Quote from Vorpal

Like, how much sexually stimulating material gets streamed through mans eyes and ears on a daily basis? Compared to how things had been for thousands of years?

Quote from theTDguy

Oh no. No, no. You don't understand. THIS is the abomination I'm talking about:


I advise you to mute the video. Not that it is bad, but I don't know if it's good either because I muted it.