Nah, the evils are equal to one another, but nobody I've spoken to IRL is capable of putting their feelings aside to think objectively, so I got torn apart for promoting 3rd party votes.

3rd party votes are stupid in the sense that neither 3rd party candidate is that great either.

are the 3rd parties worse than both hillary and trump?

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3rd party votes are stupid in the sense that neither 3rd party candidate is that great either.

Maybe not that great in a general sense, but in comparison to Rump and Hilarity they look like angels.

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There. I made a thread for you, you baby.

I appreciate the sentiment, but it wasn't because of the thread location that I was reserved.

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Did anyone here srsly voted for Trump?

I did. I really don't care about his lack of political correctness, or for alleged rape cases that are dropped less than a week later because it turns out she has a passion for falsely accusing famous people of rape and doesn't want to get locked up for perjury. Folks might think of Trump as a buffoon, but he is not an idiot and will not surround himself with idiots.

My dad and I were discussing what aught to be done about the economy and more or less agreed that the best way to bring jobs back was to reduce government interference in industry and to cut down on unnecessary regulations. Domestic policies are estimated to cost the US over 2 trillion dollars a year. Reducing that could easily bring jobs back and reduce the climb of national debt, and I think Trump knows that.

are you implying Hillary was the one who accused him of rape? that lawsuit was filed september 30th, before the 'grab her by the pussy' video even surfaced.

"he is not an idiot and will not surround himself with idiots", yet he's already chosen a climate change denier to lead the EPA transition.

also I'm not finding a single thing when I google "Domestic policies cost 2 trillion a year", got a source on that?

edit: found this, http://thehill.com/regulation/217245-nations-regulatory-costs-said-to-eclipse-2-trillion, not quite that cut and dry but I get what you're saying now. not sure if this is really the cause of job loss, though. the manufacturing sector is hopeless in the long run with automation on the rise and Trump is a fool if he thinks that's where future job growth in the US needs to be

I voted for trump (put this in that thread also).

To restate things, I did so because 1) Dem policies have been ruling for nearly a decade now, with little in the way of results, 2) Trump might be uncouth, but he's got top-notch savvy when it comes to handling issues, 3) The "team" of people surrounding Trump were entire leagues ahead of those who would have been Hillary's choices to fill various secretary seats and the like.

I mean, level-headed people like Pence and Carson and Christie will balance out Trump's somewhat incendiary enthusiasm.

EDIT: Hehe, Trump's selected Sarah Palin as Secretary of the Interior. :P

Pence is level headed? That is literally the first time I've heard anyone say that. Neat.

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Pence is level headed? That is literally the first time I've heard anyone say that. Neat.

Did you even see the debate at Longwood?

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Did you even see the debate at Longwood?

To be fair, this is also the first time I've heard someone say that.

I don't really know much about him to be honest. I have heard that he promotes conversion therapy which is kinda dumb.

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No, that's exactly where future job growth needs to be. Even with automation, you still need educated people maintaining the machinery, and raising our GDP across the nation will improve our import/export ratio. Roads and bridges are also in a fairly dire need of maintenance and repair, and we have to get those replacement parts from somewhere.

Just a note on this, our infrastructure sucks for more than the reason "we have no parts." Construction is a dying industry that isn't particularly glamorous; there are hundreds of thousands of jobs already needing to get done that can't due to lack of manpower, and unless people start flooding the industry, it'll remain that way for some time. Throwing people into other industries as well as throwing more jobs onto them will only further sink things in this area.

Just my thoughts on this particular topic.

In one sense, you're right, Azzy. We need to focus on what matters in employment to rebuild things from the ground up.

This necessitates, however, increasing jobs in industry/manufacturing type areas. "Parts" is definitely far too much of a generalization. Still, America is capable of vastly more manufacturing than we are currently doing. Industries are the building blocks of more "complex" business, and they need to be developed more on all counts in America.

Construction, however, is far from dying. As populations continue to grow, we will continue to build more than ever, in fact. The big question is how we go about doing this. Additionally, maintenance-type construction work will also increase dramatically as more of our existing infrastructure ages.

When I say "construction is dying," I don't mean we need less; I mean that nobody is going into the industry, hence why there are so many incomplete jobs and why adding more jobs will further delay and cost us. We need to get more people into the field, not overwork the people already there or further cut their potential growth.