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Dec 16, 2016 9:16 AM #1470553
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Cook makes a good point that the game master is at an unfair advantage over the players.
This normally wouldn't be a big deal if you're on traditional table top and are playing NPC's for players. Game masters would also have to make make accurate decisions according to the rules and be somewhat adversarial by default as they had to run the enemies as well. Switching between personalities, narrative and combat. It's a skillful juggling of your emotional energies.
But when you're competitively invested in a game, you could have both your hands on the bible and swear on your mommas grave and it's still gonna be suspicious.

Besides, you should consider how it'll effect the way the games feels. For example if the game master wins, what will they say? Can the other players gang up on you?
The best solution is usually to have another dungeon master, who can do it for you.


Yeah this is pretty much the bane of every game ever.


This only applies when the game master actually knows the game well and the players don't.

For a lot of games that are created and then played first time on Stick Page the game master hardly knows how to play optimally either, and for games that are fairly generic or simple the players know how to play if they just read. Even something as complex as Devour's Risky Business there are a lot of generic rts/war concepts that players would likely already have before playing.

I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable playing if players didn't understand any of the rules or I omitted things. And yeah, it's mostly for the player's sake I want trust build into the system.

Of course were I to actually go and build such a simple website for this purpose I would then be the one with access to the database and so Hewitt or you could use it but not me >.<.
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Dec 16, 2016 2:05 PM #1470568
I was going to save this joke until I unlocked Shaco, but this one's too good to pass up and I don't want to forget it.

Maokai walks into a bar and sits down at the counter. Two fungus beers later, Ivern arrives, fashionably late as always. Ivern apologizes to Maokai, saying that he was late because he had to settle a bit of a dispute between Blue and Krugs, the former being rather concerned with how quickly the latter had been multiplying lately. Ordering sassafras tea for himself, Ivern sips a bit absentmindedly as Maokai grumbles about wasting time, how he hates Brand, and how Zyra never pays him any attention when he tries to warn her against her dealings with mankind. Come closing time, Ivern looks a bit guilty; he says "I'm so terribly sorry Maokai, but I just remembered I still owe Scuttles some Razorclams and I promised him I was good for it. I'll make it up to you; I believe Blue still owes me a favor." Maokai grumbles, but grudgingly nods. The barkeep comes by to collect the empty mugs and teacup and says to the two in his odd accent, "Right, I believe the tab comes to about tree fiddy."
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Dec 16, 2016 2:42 PM #1470572
Wow, Dooms finally learn how to make quote?

He's learning guys.
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Dec 16, 2016 2:43 PM #1470574
Welp, there goes my ability to experience any joy today. Thanks Grimm.
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Dec 16, 2016 6:06 PM #1470606
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Welp, there goes my ability to experience any joy today. Thanks Grimm.


You're welcome
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Dec 16, 2016 7:39 PM #1470610
Quote from Drizzle
Wow, Dooms finally learn how to make quote?

He's learning guys.


silence it quick before it can make intelligent replies
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Dec 16, 2016 8:47 PM #1470615
Yo, I'm not stupid.

Just an illogical asshat who ISN'T learning.
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Dec 16, 2016 8:49 PM #1470616
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Or you could make it a team game. Oh wait that wouldn't be a forum game would it?


Ah shit. Mommy! I made another retarded post! What do I do?


Actually, I don't see what's retarded about your post.
Sure I'm not assuming a team game for some reason means the game master isn't at an advantage, if they wrote the rules. But I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with doing team games.

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This only applies when the game master actually knows the game well and the players don't.

For a lot of games that are created and then played first time on Stick Page the game master hardly knows how to play optimally either, and for games that are fairly generic or simple the players know how to play if they just read. Even something as complex as Devour's Risky Business there are a lot of generic rts/war concepts that players would likely already have before playing.

I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable playing if players didn't understand any of the rules or I omitted things. And yeah, it's mostly for the player's sake I want trust build into the system.

Of course were I to actually go and build such a simple website for this purpose I would then be the one with access to the database and so Hewitt or you could use it but not me >.<.

The thing is, that when you write the rules up yourself you usually want to sit the first round out. This way players who are all seeing/learning the game for the first time, don't feel like they're playing catch up against the guy that hand concocted the rules and therefor has had much more time to consider his strategy.

The advantage is inherent unless other people get a chance to catch up to you a little bit.

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Yo, I'm not stupid.

Just an illogical asshat who ISN'T learning.

Ahh

You just had to go and fuck it up didn't you?
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Dec 16, 2016 8:49 PM #1470617
Personally I'd rather someone was logical and stupid than illogical and not stupid.
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Dec 16, 2016 9:08 PM #1470618
I would agree. Sadly, I'm not that guy (mainly because I legitimately have mental issues, not making a joke/meme here).


@Vorpal: Wait really, and yes. Yes I did.
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Dec 16, 2016 9:57 PM #1470621
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Ahh

You just had to go and fuck it up didn't you?


That's Dooms for you.
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Dec 17, 2016 12:19 AM #1470634
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Personally I'd rather someone was logical and stupid than illogical and not stupid.


Hmmm how does this work?
Logical and stupid: poor guy with no education, but still has common sense
Illogical and not stupid: Osama bin laden. An evil guy he was, but still nonetheless a smart guy.
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Dec 17, 2016 1:08 AM #1470637
I honestly think Dooms is a really elaborate troll that someday three years in the future he'll be like, "HAHA! Fooled you all!" or something. There's no way someone can be this cringy, this socially awkward, is there? o_-

I literally think he's joking when I read his posts because some of them are just that retarded.
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Dec 17, 2016 1:10 AM #1470638
IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO.
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Dec 17, 2016 1:21 AM #1470640
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I honestly think Dooms is a really elaborate troll that someday three years in the future he'll be like, "HAHA! Fooled you all!" or something. There's no way someone can be this cringy, this socially awkward, is there? o_-

I literally think he's joking when I read his posts because some of them are just that retarded.


Wow, what a cool conspiracy theory. :O
wasn't being sarcastic either.
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