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did anyone else notice the tags for this thread? LOL

I did, looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

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I responded then i edited this post because it's useless. Who even cares. I may be mistaken but I'm not "completely clueless." I don't know who the fuck raised you but where I come from that's not polite to someone who's just trying to help compromise.

im so tired of arguments on this forum. try to help and add some 2 cents and you get lashed at for it.

You WEREN'T trying to help compromise. You told me I was wrong and then said I should just do what they say because it would be easier. You also did this based on a false presumption. You were making matters worse. Also, don't act like you're one who gives a shit about how "polite" someone is. Some of your posts to other members on this forum are littered with unwarranted douchebaggery. You can get over my exaggeration of how off the mark you were.

If you don't fully understand a situation, don't join in the conversation until you do. That's why I asked you not to interject when you were arguing a moot point. Being sore about it afterwards doesn't seem necessary because I only made a request.

Why are you such an angry man

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The "honorable member" usergroup is a fucking joke, and it makes the old members even more intolerable and pretentious than they already are.

seriously though I haven't done anything to make you think I'm "intolerable", you can easily ignore what we're talking about instead of just sitting on the sidelines and trashing me for no reason.

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Then in terms of proposed resolution, what would you suggest? There are plenty of good arguments for and against the reimplementation of this ex-mods group, and either way I do this someone isn't going to be happy, but is there some middle ground you would feel comfortable with in this situation?

I don't know. I really don't think it'd be unfair to just let the ex-mods back in the mod forum, since we never caused any problems there in the past. Maybe just have a zero-tolerance policy where if someone starts acting like a dick, they're kicked out? And whichever members you're referring to as problems, just don't let them in to begin with. If it was that bad to make you think the group should be removed entirely, then they don't have much room to complain.

Or maybe just ask the mods in the section if they'd have a problem with it? I guess their feedback would be worth listening to.

Not going to type out another wall of text, but either way I'm glad this wasn't entirely hostile. everyone probably thinks we're being way too serious about this but, whatever. fuck them. good civil discussions are hard to find on forums like these, even if it's over something relatively trivial to most people.

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If you just want it to act as a plaque of commendation you could just change the title beneath the name to "Honorable Member" and maybe give it a colour theme(since I assume normal users can't do that). That would be a special privilege that they would only have, plus there could be no miscommunication about them being current moderators.

Just a suggestion.

that's basically just dodging around the issue since in essence it's not much different than changing the username color, other than it being a tiny bit smaller... i mean, if you're willing to do that, then what's wrong with just changing the username color?

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I don't know. I really don't think it'd be unfair to just let the ex-mods back in the mod forum, since we never caused any problems there in the past. Maybe just have a zero-tolerance policy where if someone starts acting like a dick, they're kicked out?

Your going backwards there, Jeff already stated that he didn't really want this. Besides, ex-mods (normal users, since they stopped being a mod) in a mod forum kind of understates the purpose of a mod forum.

He asked me what I thought was reasonable, that hasn't really changed. Because of that I also said it's his decision and I'm not going to fight it, so, not sure what you're trying to prove.

The little "haters gonna hate" gif actually demonstrates your pretentious attitude about having "honorable" status by insulating that my response was fueled by envy.

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seriously though I haven't done anything to make you think I'm "intolerable", you can easily ignore what we're talking about instead of just sitting on the sidelines and trashing me for no reason.

I'm not sitting on the sidelines, I was in fact contributing my opinion to the discussion. I've read all of your blocks of text and made the assessment that you want a purple name in order to enjoy a higher status, which I believe Jeff already covered in one of his first posts.

All the other arguments you presented were filled with bullshit in a mere attempt to make your true intention less visible.

;)

Not sure what you mean by insulating your response, but the gif was mostly because I don't really care what you think. you just come off as an asshole trying to cause problems, that has nothing to do with pretentiousness. you're not really backing up anything you say either so excuse me for not taking you seriously

I also don't give a single fuck about my name being purple, think I've mentioned that about 50 times now. keep the names the same color for all I care, if that'll shut up the idiots who think I'm this concerned about something so petty.

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When I ran Shiftlimits, our community had a bad wrap because a few of our members decided to be aggressive and offensive to new and impressionable members. We stopped getting new members for a while because of this. Some of the people who had been offended by the few members being dicks had been scared away, and reported this to other websites they went to. Unfortunately for my site, those action became a stereotype for our community, and whenever people would talk about SL, they would call us elitist douche bags. It sucks, and I hated that it happened, but I cannot blame the people who called SL members those things because it's unreasonable for me to believe they should look at us individually instead of a group. If someone knew me personally, they would say, "Jeff is a cool guy but everyone else from SL is a dick." Until they got to know someone else, then it would be, "Jeff and someone else are cool, but everyone else from SL is a dick."

I've been hostile towards shiftlimits since like 2008, because you guys wordfiltered "stickpage" to "dickpage", plus Strife and Cicada were both snobby jackasses, and they were the SL guys who went here. The banners on the site really annoyed me, and then I decided to spam shock materials, and got a really snooty and dickish IP ban message. WE HAVE YOUR IP AND KNOW YOU LIVE IN BELLEVUE WASHINGTON, WATCH OUT, OOOOOOOO *EMOTICON*
as if you're going to do shit with it. it's likely that you wrote that, and I apologize for the spam if you saw it and somehow remember it, although it wasn't too much.

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I also don't give a single fuck about my name being purple, think I've mentioned that about 50 times now.

How about no colored names? Just a user group*?

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did anyone else notice the tags for this thread? LOL

heh i actually just checked the first time.

Quote from Jeff

You WEREN'T trying to help compromise. You told me I was wrong and then said I should just do what they say because it would be easier. You also did this based on a false presumption. You were making matters worse. Also, don't act like you're one who gives a shit about how "polite" someone is. Some of your posts to other members on this forum are littered with unwarranted douchebaggery. You can get over my exaggeration of how off the mark you were.

If you don't fully understand a situation, don't join in the conversation until you do. That's why I asked you not to interject when you were arguing a moot point. Being sore about it afterwards doesn't seem necessary because I only made a request.

ok jeff thats cool and stuff

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that's basically just dodging around the issue since in essence it's not much different than changing the username color, other than it being a tiny bit smaller... i mean, if you're willing to do that, then what's wrong with just changing the username color?

If you changed the colour of the username it would be a usergroup. A whole usergroup for people who've served the community but no longer contribute as much(or have disappeared altogether) seems redundant. It would not just be a "tiny bit smaller", it would signify a recognition for their efforts on the forum without the fuddle-duddle of creating a usergroup.

I don't see what's wrong with creating a usergroup, and from my experience administrating a vBull forum, I think it's easier to make a usergroup even if you want to give the members a special usertitle- rather than doing it one-by-one. Really, usergroups just serve functions, and giving certain properties to a group of members would be most easily achieved through a usergroup. Where's the problem, or "fuddle-duddle", again? Or are you just used to where a usergroup is a huge deal and is on the forum index, next to mods and admins? The only place it'd be is Forum Leaders, which 75% of active members haven't even fucking noticed.