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May 16, 2013 1:42 AM #975023
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I was talking about other drugs. Medical drugs are fine, but people use it for other weird shit. I don't know why.
I understand why you want it to be legal, but it also puts the lives of americans in danger of becoming drug addicts and abuse medications.
Now, I'm not saying drugs are a bad thing, but people need to use it for one main purpose: health, and not for your own enjoyment or whatever the fuck you do with that stuff.

You're attacking stuff like marijuana, and yet you don't seem to have anything against alcohol, tobacco, or caffeine. Interesting. I shouldn't need to point out the massive flaw in that line of thought; it all comes back to your indoctrination.

Regarding putting 'muricans in danger of becoming drug addicts, I say that's natural selection at work. Something america desperately needs more of.
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Sounds like something a hippie would say. =_=
Yeah, drugs can make you more chill, but in a bad way.
People don't want to hang out with someone who wants to remove themselves from a situation and 'reconnect with nature'.
Simply the satisfaction of drugs isn't worth it. Nor is it worth your time.


Yeah, the satisfaction of being capable of understanding existence surely isn't worth a few morons not wanting to hang out with me, or the time I would otherwise spend wasting in a desk job lmao

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Unless you come up with a meaningful argument, you should probably just shut up and rethink your life.
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May 16, 2013 1:47 AM #975027
This is now the everyone-against-gamerat thread.
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May 16, 2013 1:48 AM #975028
Cheeseburgers are killing more people then weed is, should we ban them too?

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I'm not being judgmental, because I experience it all the time. Every time I go somewhere, I see some ugly guy smoking in the corner. Besides, if I put myself into that kind of situation, it wouldn't be very pretty.
You can lose your job for doing drugs.
You can lose your drivers license for doing drugs.
Hell, you can go to jail just for doing drugs.
So why the fuck would I want to get into those experiences, hm?


All those things you listed are a result of drugs being illegal. Unless people are incapable of handling what they are using they shouldn't have to worry about any of that, except for the legal issues of course.
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May 16, 2013 1:49 AM #975030
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This is now the everyone-against-gamerat thread.


people like him are everything that is wrong with society today
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May 16, 2013 1:55 AM #975033
I think you need to realise there is a difference between substance use and substance abuse. Everything is bad when you have it out of balance, to much sun will give me cancer, to much McDonalds will make me fat, so why do you assume drugs are different? By saying 'You could abuse these, so we're going to make them illegal for your own good' you're going to create a nation of people who don't know how to be responsible and need to be told what to do and not to do. Yes some drugs do have a very negative effect and probably shouldn't be used, but grouping everything that has no medical purpose with these hard drugs is a mistake, and who can I say I'm free if I can't make the decision to smoke or ingest whatever I want?

There are also a million reasons why people do drugs. From it being a social thing at a party (alcohol and weed) to a form of escapism (heroine) or like Scarecrow mentioned the aid in spirituality. You can't make sweeping generalizations, and you shouldn't judge people for drug use unless you know your shit on the drug or have experienced it.
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May 16, 2013 2:01 AM #975036
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I'm not being judgmental, because I experience it all the time. Every time I go somewhere, I see some ugly guy smoking in the corner. Besides, if I put myself into that kind of situation, it wouldn't be very pretty.
You can lose your job for doing drugs.
You can lose your drivers license for doing drugs.
Hell, you can go to jail just for doing drugs.
So why the fuck would I want to get into those experiences, hm?


You missed the entire point of my post. Nice job.
And you have clearly not experienced it. There's a large difference between seeing someone do drugs and actually being offered it upfront by people you know or being told that it can help calm your mind.
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May 16, 2013 3:12 AM #975090
Seriously why always change the conversation for debate thingy?
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May 16, 2013 3:37 AM #975101
Damn, I'm trying to stay away from this place, but I checked back when I was bored for a second, and read the chat thread. My god you fools ganging up on gamerat are sad. Here's some words by the great writer Stephen King, from his book On Writing: A memoir of the Craft. Now this is just an alternate viewpoint by someone who's actually experienced hard core addiction in his life including weed, alcohol, tobacco, cocaine, and plenty more. I'm not saying this is fact, but it's another viewpoint that should be considered. I especially agree with the part that people think creative minds require some kind of substance abuse to create things. Gunnii, I'm looking at you. Try reading this with an open mind, and instead of spouting about gamerat's anti drug indoctrination, think about your pro drug indoctrination.

"The idea that creative endeavor and mind-altering substances are entwined is one of the great pop-intellectual myths of our time. The four twentieth-century writers whose work is most responsible for it are probably Hemingway, Fitzgerald, Sherwood Anderson, and the poet Dylan Thomas. They are the writers who largely formed our vision of an existential English-speaking wasteland where people have been cut off from one another and live in an atmosphere of emotional strangulation and despair. These concepts are very familiar to most alcoholics; the common reaction to them is amusement. Substance abusing writers are just substance abusers—common garden-variety drunks and druggies, in other words. Any claims that the drugs and alcohol are necessary to dull a finer sensibility are just the usual self-serving bullshit. I’ve heard alcoholic snowplow drivers make the same claim, that they drink to still the demons. It doesn’t matter if you’re James Jones, John Cheever, or a Stewbum snoozing in Penn Station; for an addict, the right to the drink or drug of choice must be preserved at all costs. Hemingway and Fitzgerald didn’t drink because they were creative, alienated, or morally weak. They drank because it’s what alkies are wired up to do. Creative people probably do run a greater risk of alcoholism and addiction than those in some other jobs, but so what? We all look pretty much the same when we’re puking in the gutter."

-Stephen King
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May 16, 2013 5:59 AM #975148
GameRat101 has a small doodle.
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May 16, 2013 7:46 AM #975244
Had Naplan today. Its nationwide testing for Australian students once a year. My class missed out on PE because of it; I was sad.

In other news, I suggest GameRat101 be banned until he/she does actually research on harmful, addictive substances.
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May 16, 2013 9:07 AM #975292
It's very difficult to do research on controlled substances. For one thing you'll need to find something which looks and smells like weed for the control group to smoke as a placebo. Plus as soon as you put up posters asking for participants you're going to have the police knocking on your door. Then there's the funding issue; do you know how much it costs to get enough drugs for enough people to take for a long enough time to be statistically significant? It's a lot. You have to pay the participants too. It's an all round nightmare.
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May 16, 2013 9:53 AM #975311
I didn't think he'd/she'd try to obtain first-hand data, but second hand data from the internet. Assuming he/she wants to stay here.
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May 16, 2013 10:15 AM #975322
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Seriously why always change the conversation for debate thingy?


a debate is still a conversation fucking deal w/ it
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May 16, 2013 11:16 AM #975350
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This is now the everyone-against-gamerat thread.


Not entirely. I'm stating my opinion and seeing what you guys think about it,
Obviously, almost all of you disagree with me, so apparently I'm wrong. Go figure. -_-
So anyways, let's just ignore the conversation if nobody likes my idea.

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In other news, I suggest GameRat101 be banned until he/she does actually research on harmful, addictive substances.


I understand that I'm incapable of explaining my thoughts, but I'm not really in the mood for researching it.
Besides, I don't want to talk about that stuff.
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May 16, 2013 11:35 AM #975363
Anyone remember that dude who got in the street naked and ate some random man's head because of some drugs? Anyways I don't think talking about this is for me.
*Fly away immediately.*