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I didn't read any of this thread to be fair, but I still hold that the Hulk is the strongest, considering that this thread is called "The strongest there is" and not "who's killed the more powerful being". The Hulk could never be defeated, and if his strength is limitless I think that makes him literally the perfect candidate.

I feel like there's something wrong with claiming that the hulk can never be defeated when we're considering a character who already killed God, the devil, and the angel of death.

There's a difference between power and physical strength.
Pretty sure this thread was meant to be about physical strength, even if the poster didn't realize he was asking this question.

so is an angel of death physically stronger than the hulk, idunno

Never said that it should be physical strenght. We are talking about the literal definition of strenght, I've already posted a link before, check it if you want. Zed, SOK wasn't able to kill that one vampire (Forgot his name) since his guns couldn't kill the undead. Doesn't that make Alucard his natural counter, despite him being..immortal and stuff? I mean.. Like SOK could 1 shot Hulk no sweat, Hulk isn't even a contest against SOK in my eyes.. But with that aside, Alucard can simply disappear and reappear at will, while existing and not existing in the same time. Can you kill something that doesn't exist?

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DOCTOR MANHATTAN IS THE STRONGEST THERE IS. YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID.

I don't like you, go back to the RHG section please.

*Shrugs* that's fine. Wait, weren't you permabanned or something? Okay fine. *jumps out the window*

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I didn't read any of this thread to be fair, but I still hold that the Hulk is the strongest, considering that this thread is called "The strongest there is" and not "who's killed the more powerful being". The Hulk could never be defeated, and if his strength is limitless I think that makes him literally the perfect candidate.

But I mean, the hulk has been defeated
When he came back as world war hulk, he fought sentry in the end and just barely lost, but still, he lost

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*Shrugs* that's fine. Wait, weren't you permabanned or something? Okay fine. *jumps out the window*

How's that relevant in this discussion, eh?

Anyways, I still think the Hulk is the strongest.

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Never said that it should be physical strenght. We are talking about the literal definition of strenght, I've already posted a link before, check it if you want. Zed, SOK wasn't able to kill that one vampire (Forgot his name) since his guns couldn't kill the undead. Doesn't that make Alucard his natural counter, despite him being..immortal and stuff? I mean.. Like SOK could 1 shot Hulk no sweat, Hulk isn't even a contest against SOK in my eyes.. But with that aside, Alucard can simply disappear and reappear at will, while existing and not existing in the same time. Can you kill something that doesn't exist?

The Hulk's strength falls under the literal definition of strength. While this entire subject is pretty much based on opinion, I don't think you can convincingly present "Hulk isn't even a contest against SOK in my eyes" as an argument. Saying things like SOK killed a God doesn't really do much to support the argument that SOK is more powerful than the Hulk, given The Hulk has overcome gods before. I don't see anything wrong with favoring the Hulk simply because it's always been a case of "Hulk gets angrier until he wins or some shit" with his writers. If we're talking about the literal definition of strength, Hulk's capacity for endless power feels like it should trump anything else.

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But I mean, the hulk has been defeated
When he came back as world war hulk, he fought sentry in the end and just barely lost, but still, he lost

When was this? I don't remember Hulk losing anything. In World War Hulk, Hulk spared The Sentry from death.

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When was this? I don't remember Hulk losing anything. In World War Hulk, Hulk spared The Sentry from death.

I don't know, I might be remembering wrong, but I'm preeeety sure that at the end of the WWH comic, y'know, while they were in that supernova vortex thing, they had that whole punching match and sentry overpowered hulk in the end.
wasn't that what stopped his rampage?
I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong tbh, it was a while ago that I read that

Jeff that was supposed to be for mr. 'r.d.' . And I never had the thought of using it as an argument, it's just my opinion that SOK can defeat Hulk easily, since 'First off they will never jam, nor will they run out of ammunition or need to be reloaded. But the most important factor of the revolvers is that they will always hit their mark, no matter what they must pass through to reach it. As well, whatever wound is received from the guns shall always be fatal no matter who the victim is even if it is God or The Devil.' seems somewhat.. OP.. My actual question was, how do you think Hulk would kill Immortal guys like Alucard and can he overcome super 'Mind Control and Hypnosis' , the teleportation.. etc? And I am positive that has lost to the Sentry.

I don't think there's much point in this thread if all you're going to do is ignore what anyone else is saying and stand behind your statements by claiming they're just your opinion. You're entitled to have whatever opinion you want but if you're going to disagree with others I would suggest that you try to encourage discussion instead of shrugging off every one else. It's your topic though, I'm just saying I like these debates when they involve people that enjoy discussing the finer mechanics of fictional powers rather than people who hide behind having an opinion.

That being said, I did already mention how the Hulk would over come immortals. I don't think the Hulk could potentially kill everyone, but again, you said this is a discussion about strength, and given that the Hulk has a lot of bullshit writing that gives him ridiculous powers, I'd say he'd be able to keep fighting no matter what, regardless of what hurt him. Mind control and reality warping don't affect the Hulk, so Alucard having Schrodinger's powers doesn't mean anything. The Hulk would just punch his way into whatever dimension Alucard was in and go nuts on all his lives until Alucard was defeated. The Hulk has also already defeated the Sentry in a crossover comic, so that point doesn't really seem valid. SOK couldn't hurt Hulk physically because he would just heal and get angrier. This is all according to the Hulk's own fiction.

I like him a lot, but I am too drunk to respond right now.

Edit I was so drunk I missed a load of los d theatre I'll talk about katee

First of all I never disagreed with what you or anyone else said. The only thing I did is ask you how do you think would Hulk defeat Alucard's immortality, and no punching his way through dimensions won't do anything. Alucard's power grants him the ability to exist wherever and however he wishes to. He can also exist in multiple places at once, so I was interested how do you think Hulk would beat him, that's not disagreeing with what you said. I made this thread to discuss how would one defeat another, what are their pros and cons, and learn about new characters as you said. This time tho, you are hiding behind an opinion, what are your feats? How can Hulk survive the weapons that are said to kill whoever they are fired at? Atleast quote what I did to disagree with your opinion before going ham and saying that. I don't see anything wrong with 'My actual question was, how do you think Hulk would kill Immortal guys like Alucard and can he overcome super 'Mind Control and Hypnosis' , the teleportation.. etc?'

That aside, I'll be grateful if you post any non-mainstream characters that are pretty OP. Since I really got tired of the same old shit :D I am surprised that no one has brought the Superman bullshit so far..

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DOCTOR MANHATTAN IS THE WEAK GUY THERE IS. YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID.

"Fixed" LOL.