kinda yeah
im making trees and fires
at one point ill have a water floating with a fire.
How to utilize scorch?
Started by: Denpants | Replies: 55 | Views: 12,015
Oct 19, 2014 12:37 PM #1257502
Oct 19, 2014 6:33 PM #1257604
more proof-
www.stickempires.com/play?replay=replay7097438&version=2.17
I beat this guy who was in the lead by scorching his miners, this will stunt anybody's economy and can cost them the game. JUst keep you water elememtal and fire elemental run speeds even with micro
www.stickempires.com/play?replay=replay7097438&version=2.17
I beat this guy who was in the lead by scorching his miners, this will stunt anybody's economy and can cost them the game. JUst keep you water elememtal and fire elemental run speeds even with micro
Oct 19, 2014 9:55 PM #1257667
Looking at this from an Order point of view scorch is super easy to defend against (assuming you even get to mid game). One of my priorities is to always spend the 100 gold to research wall so that I'm prepared to quickly defend against scorch. The chances of a fire and water reaching my archers is also really low, considering that the main objective in skirmishes is to keep distance away from their fires, and that fires run about as fast as archers.
Alternatively, it can be very useful at lower levels where people dont know enough to defend against it and one good scorch can easily end the game. But when people know about it and how to counter it, it becomes difficult to pull off.
Alternatively, it can be very useful at lower levels where people dont know enough to defend against it and one good scorch can easily end the game. But when people know about it and how to counter it, it becomes difficult to pull off.
Oct 20, 2014 1:56 AM #1257760
Yeah if you have a wall up scorch really can't do anything. I'd imagine it'd be a bit harder as chaos due to lack of walls.
Oct 20, 2014 5:14 AM #1257852
This should be obvious, but use it in a large crowd. The knockback and damage can kill archers and force spears, merics, and other units our of their positions. Two scorches can kill spellcasters (except chaos marrow and medusa, but don't use scorch like how you would with a shadowrath's shinobi; yo're wastin' 800 gold there.)
Oct 20, 2014 9:21 AM #1257893
It's stupid using Scorch to kill anything else except archers or miners without hustle and it's not even good for killing that. Even if you do manage a hit with scorch, it does a lot of harm to you as well as the opponent, trust me.
You can use a fire for a tank or you can combine into infernos, which is much better than scorch for large crowds. For the water, you can heal massive amounts, turn it into a tree or Cycloid, which is still better than scorch on large crowds. It's just better to combine into these units than use scorch
You can use a fire for a tank or you can combine into infernos, which is much better than scorch for large crowds. For the water, you can heal massive amounts, turn it into a tree or Cycloid, which is still better than scorch on large crowds. It's just better to combine into these units than use scorch
Oct 20, 2014 5:29 PM #1258028
Quote from PUMUkinda yeah
im making trees and fires
at one point ill have a water floating with a fire.
It's like every time I make a comment about early game you go and respond talking about mid game.
Oct 20, 2014 6:58 PM #1258049
He has a good point why not tress or char hogs or even a V!
Oct 21, 2014 2:37 AM #1258193
Lewis, this is a thread about scorch.
Oct 21, 2014 3:59 AM #1258212
Quote from SkeletonxfIt's like every time I make a comment about early game you go and respond talking about mid game.
Scorch is kinda a mid game thing
Oct 21, 2014 5:22 AM #1258234
Quote from SkeletonxfIt's like every time I make a comment about early game you go and respond talking about mid game.
Nowhere in your posts did I see the word "early game". And no, swords in OvE aren't early game only, they're useful throughout the mid game.
On that topic, I suppose scorch could be useful if the opponent massed swords and you have enough firepower to finish them off post-blast. There'd need to be a lot of swords to make it cost-efficient though.
Oct 21, 2014 7:19 AM #1258261
Well that's kind of all that scorch is useful for, and it's only useful against mass swords WHEN THEY RAGE. The health loss will result in an insta-kill, but anyone who isn't some nooby 1700 wouldn't be massing swords in the first place, and I assume you are a player of respectable rank.
Oct 21, 2014 8:04 PM #1258457
Quote from jerryttScorch is kinda a mid game thing
Yes, yes it is. I made my comment about swords attacking a base. Swords. Just swords. Not swords and archers. Swords. Swords alone. Even with swords being useful mid game, I'd expect archers to be there too at mid game stages.
I made some sort of lost comment about how that was too early for scorch, because quite rightly scorch is a mid game thing.
Oct 22, 2014 5:09 AM #1258595
Quote from nutsophastWell that's kind of all that scorch is useful for, and it's only useful against mass swords WHEN THEY RAGE. The health loss will result in an insta-kill, but anyone who isn't some nooby 1700 wouldn't be massing swords in the first place, and I assume you are a player of respectable rank.
Actually, by my understanding, massed rageswords with archer support can do a lot of damage against ele. The problem is that swords usually end up dying pretty fast, so there's rarely an opportunity to really mass them. Also, I think I was unclear in my post, I didn't mean massed swords and nothing else. I meant massed swords with heavy archer support, which is a viable build against elementals.
Oct 24, 2014 8:13 PM #1259586
Quote from 59saintdaneActually, by my understanding, massed rageswords with archer support can do a lot of damage against ele. The problem is that swords usually end up dying pretty fast, so there's rarely an opportunity to really mass them. Also, I think I was unclear in my post, I didn't mean massed swords and nothing else. I meant massed swords with heavy archer support, which is a viable build against elementals.
How is ele meant to make the swords die?
Ele can't really chase them as they retreat like Chaos can early game.